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Hey all. I am playing my friend tonight and I am relatively unsure about how to go about playing against him. I am running Blood Angels and he is running Necrons. I have the following army (which I know is not optimal but it is all I have right now

HQ
Librarian in Terminator Armor/Storm Bolter
Reclusiarch (non JP)

ELITE
Furioso Dreadnought Frag Cannon/Blood Talons/ Heavy Flamer in a Drop Pod
Brother Corbulo

Troops
x5 Death Company two Bolters, Powerfist, Power Sword and Power Axe
x10 Tactical Sergeant has Powersword and CombiPlas, one missle launcher, one plasma gun
x10 Assault two infernus pistols Sergeant has melta bombs, powerfist and combat shield

All I know is that his army will be running three Wraiths, a Cryptek with x10 Deathmarks, Imhotek the Storm Lord, Lords with Resurrection orbs, Lynch Guard, and like 20 warrioirs.

I am pretty outnumbered and while I know that I have superiority in the charge, I was curious on tactics. My attack plan is to combat squads the tac unit placing Corbulo with one and the librarian with the other to nab objectives and be shooty, the Reclusiarch will obviously be with the DC and the Assault Marines will be my First Blood/objective grabber. Furioso will be there to kill things.

In previous games I have had great luck with the Furioso, and Corbulo has proven to be bulletproof, plasma proof, gauss proof, pretty much ANYTHING proof lol. My assault squads have proven effective in the past but they usually get blown by turn 3 or 4. The tac squad usually babysits objectives and that is usually where I have Corbulo. Librarian usually uses Blood Boil for the free wound, but am open to other powers (suggestions?) My big issue is the Reanimation Protocol. I get bogged down by this with my assault squad and it can take 3-4 turns to wipe a unit because even when I knock out 25% of his squad he still passes leadership because of his Necron Lord and then he reanimates on 4+. This gets frustrating to deal with because of my limited numbers. Keeping away is tough because of the range, and now he is adding a Cryptek with Death Marks for that dumb template ability. Wraiths are new for his army as well.

I do have a Mephiston at disposal but he costs a lot and my friend really doesn't have fun when I field him..

Much appreciated!

Run your terminator Libby with your Assault marines, give him Wings of Sanguinius and either Shield or Unleash Rage. If you're getting bogged down in combat, unleash rage will give you a chaplain like edge in every round EXCEPT the first (as he will have used his warp charge on wings) shield can be used in the same game turn as wings as a warp charge is generated every player turn (thus allowing an every-assault-phase-unleash-rage) since it is used in the enemy shooting phase, it can greatly cut down on your losses to AP3/AP2 weaponry.

If your DC have Jump Packs, you might try proxying your Reclusiarch as Lemartes. He comes with a Jump pack for only twenty more points and he is an absolute beast of a character once he takes that first wound. 8 Str8 Initiative 6 AP4 concussive attacks on the charge. WTF. this guy eats entire units of firewarriors/aspect warriors for breakfast.

Melta bombs are redundant if you have a powerfist. But you shouldn't be taking a powerfist. You should be taking a power axe. Make that swap, lose the combat shield and the melta bombs and voila you can upgrade your Reclusiarch to Lemartes.

Btw, you can't take Blood Talons and one frag cannon :/ it'd be fraggin awesome if you could but sadly you must replace BOTH fists with the talons and the frag cannon replaces ONE of the fists. Dumb I know but it makes sense because having a blender cannon and blender claws would be OP.

Corbulo is great, but you know what he's even better with? Sternguard. Keeping those AP3 bolters chugging away is glorious and if you give them Combi Meltas and they slag a tank, they immediately become priority number one for your opponent and Corby will do his thing and soak bullets like a boss, thus increasing his effectiveness and being a big DISTRACTION CARNIFEX. Also, tacticals are pretty lame (no offense, they're just a lot better in C:SM and even there they're pretty garbage) so I would bring more assaulties for more ass kicking or scouts for cheaper objective holding

Lol I agree with the tacticals being garbage, but I haven't assembled my other assaults yet. I have enough for another ten man squad plus one more of five, so I have a lot of work to do lol

Where did I miss in the codex that a Furioso can't have a Blood Talon and Frag Cannon? Easy swap as I have the arm able to do that but was curious?

With the Reclusiarch I was hoping that rerolls on to hit and to wound would help sway CC in my favor? I have a LeMartes on order

Don't play to the necrons' strengths and try to out shoot them. That is an uphill battle. Be aggressive and assault them. You seem pretty new to the game so there is no reason why you can't proxy the tacticals as assault squads.

Murdius Maximus wrote:
Lol I agree with the tacticals being garbage, but I haven't assembled my other assaults yet. I have enough for another ten man squad plus one more of five, so I have a lot of work to do lol

Where did I miss in the codex that a Furioso can't have a Blood Talon and Frag Cannon? Easy swap as I have the arm able to do that but was curious?

With the Reclusiarch I was hoping that rerolls on to hit and to wound would help sway CC in my favor? I have a LeMartes on order

Don't superglue all those jump packs on! If you decide to run Razorspam mech BA or load up in Land Raiders you'll be kicking yourself over and over. Go half and half jumpers and walkers or magnetized them to use both

Pretty sure in the back, looking at the points costs and stuff it says that they can swap both blood fists for blood talons or swap one blood fist for a frag cannon. Which also means you can't take two frag cannons :(

With a Reclusiarch (or Lemartes as he is a Chaplain too, and a much better one) AND librarian you can have rerolls to hit and to wound in the first assault phase and re roll ones to hit and to wound in every following phase my little death company. Rerolls are magic.

MAGNETS!!!!!!!!! Once you start you just can't stop!


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LOL my Master of the forge model has 4 magnetized connection and not one includes the arms hahaha

I'll bear the LeMartes in mind. We are keeping pretty strict on points right now I want to be fair to him. Maybe next game lol. I plan on using the five odd assault marines without jump packs because I plan on having at least one Razorback for now. I have a rhino to build but I was advised that a Razorback was just better. Besides I'm nervous to begin using magnets because I worry about borking a model and seeing as they are expensive I can't really afford to goof up on any of them...

I don't plan on running Razorspam but my final vehicle count was to be a Baal Predator, a Land Raider Crusader (for that DC squad which will ultimately have ten units and Astorath/LeMartes) and a Stormraven. The rest will be Assault Marines, a Priest with JP, Corbulo, a Furioso Dread, two DC Dreads, a few Drop Pods and a TH/SS Terminator unit. That is close to 2000 points if kitted correctly and I feel like it would be pretty good. But I am still working towards that right now lol!

Magnets are probably easier for attaching things than glue IMHO, as gluing the magnet uses less glue and is always just a disc. Have to get the right size magnets though.

Murdius Maximus wrote:

I don't plan on running Razorspam but my final vehicle count was to be a Baal Predator, a Land Raider Crusader (for that DC squad which will ultimately have ten units and Astorath/LeMartes) and a Stormraven. The rest will be Assault Marines, a Priest with JP, Corbulo, a Furioso Dread, two DC Dreads, a few Drop Pods and a TH/SS Terminator unit. That is close to 2000 points if kitted correctly and I feel like it would be pretty good. But I am still working towards that right now lol!

Baal Predator with Flamestorm and Heavy Bolters: good
LRC with face mashing unit: good. Don't put Astorath in there. Don't take Astorath at all. Take a Libby with them,(who can shield the Land Raider and give you rerolls) and Lemartes if you're feeling confident, a regular chaplain if you want to save points and a Reclusiarch if you want something in between to tank challenges.
Stormraven: good
Fragioso Dread in a pod: good
DC dreads: not all that great. They want to drop pod first turn so they can blend on turn 2 but they don't want to drop on turn 1 cause their shooting sucks! And you want that good alpha strike
Speaking of Alpha strike: Corbulo, awesome. Walking TH/SS terminators? Bad. Stick him in a drop pod with combi weapon sternguard instead.
Assault marines with Spriests: good solid scoring units.

Don't worry, Razorspam isn't my cup o tea either. But you never know. You may decide AV13-14 rodeo isn't your gig and you may want to take razorbacks. Just remember, never take just one. Take two. Or six. And be prepared to give up first blood in almost every game.

Appreciate the responses bobcatt! So I should replace the Termies with Sternguard? I presume they are the ones without the JP correct? I am not very familiar with that unit but I'll give anything a try lol!

Incidentally, I won last night by a landslide. There were five objectives worth three points each, and by the time the dust settled, I controlled 3 of them, got first blood, slay the warlord and linebreaker while losing only five units total (DC got rocked, but my libby/assault squad wrecked face obliterating one unit of ten warriors and a lord in one round of assault after he failed to regroup whilst losing none.) Corbulo soaked up NINE wounds (had to take a Far Seeing Eye but meh) and my Dreadnought was largely ineffective, but was plenty intimidating. He ended up being a corral unit of sorts. To my friends defense, the dice gods were unkind to him and he made a critical error when he used Veil of Darkness (I think that is what it's called) with his Deathmarks and Cryptek and they scattered right in between 3 DC with a Reclusiarch, the Furioso and a five man tac squad (Sarge had combi-plas, one guy had a plasma gun, and one had a missile launcher) needless to say that unit got crushed pretty handily and after that he threw in the towel. I definitely think if his rolls were nicer to him he would have slaughtered me for sure though. He is a great player just had a bad streak of luck that one...

A fellow gamer there saw our game and was like "It takes balls to play Blood Angels. Especially against Necrons." LOL!

Well at least he is not fielding a Necron airforce so it looks like you both have a decent ban on weapons of mass destruction going.

Oh he has fliers and command barges and whatnot he just hasn't assembled them yet. I imagine once that happens I'm pretty doomed...