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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/12 19:09:27
Subject: Mono-Khorne daemons any good?
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Disguised Speculo
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So I set about selling all the armies I didn't use, but I couldn't bring myself to part with the servants of Khorne.
I'm just wondering, can mono-khorne daemons be any good? I don't mean top tier, but can you make a decent list out of them? If so, how?
I also have a small quantity of Chaos Marines, sans helldrake. I was thinking of taking Khorne CSM allies for better scoring (ie, cultists).
Also, as an allied detachment for my Orks, I'm looking at taking a Thirster, Daemon Prince, Flesh Hounds and then breaking theme a bit with Nurglings because rubbish bloodletters cannot score anyway, and I absolutely love Nurglings. Is two daemon FMC worth it? How should I kit them up? Any advantage to the Khorne DP over those of the other gods?
Cheers
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/12 19:30:07
Subject: Mono-Khorne daemons any good?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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There was a top 8 LVO list that was something like
Kharn
Sorc
3 Termies
~ 30 cultists w/ CC
2 drakes
Blood thirster
Horrors
Flesh hounds
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/12 20:01:22
Subject: Mono-Khorne daemons any good?
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Executing Exarch
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It is totally possible. I have in fact been messing with a list to do just that with some good results. However the one thing I have been doing which you may not like is using CSM as primary to avoid the warp storm table as I don't have the HQ slots in the list for fateweaver.
Two of the key components in my list are Be'Lakor for telepathy invisibility and maledictions which really helps me survive the return fire and a grimoire herald. I call Be'Lakor my khorne enabler.
Karnak+Bloodcrushers have been crushing it in my of kilter list lately. They can pull the same scout up charge as the hounds and can be even more damaging with an upgraded crusher with lesser gift. You can put the grimoire in here and the unit will become difficult to remove.
Hounds are of course great.
Blood thirster can be awesome. You need to play super aggressive in a khorne style list anyways and with this style the blood thirster often doesn't even get grounded as the opponent needs the shots against the hounds, etc.
I also use Kharne the betrayer with either a unit of khorne possessed, MoK chosen, or berzerkers. They go into a landraider which Be'Lakor and DP/thirster can use as LoS blocking terrain and Be'Lakor uses invisibility on. The LR becomes very hard to kill if you can pop smoke or claim cover.
Cultists then pad out my scoring.
Nurglings are all right but I prefer pink horrors to drop onto objectives, run to get on, and GtG for a rerollable 2+ cover save (you did put the objective in area terrain right?).
I have been meaning to try an icon on the crushers and DS a bunch of letters into the enemy DZ but cannot speak to it's table effect.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/12 23:24:57
Subject: Mono-Khorne daemons any good?
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Disguised Speculo
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Is Belakor khorneate or at least khorne friendly? I don't know anything at all about his backstory
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/12 23:33:15
Subject: Mono-Khorne daemons any good?
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The Daemon Possessing Fulgrim's Body
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He is to Daemons in many ways as Abaddon is to CSM
He was the first Daemon Prince, blessed by all the gods, they subsequently figured this wasn't such a good idea, hence the mono God Princes we have now.
You wouldn't break anything, fluff wise, by including him.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/12 23:33:32
Subject: Mono-Khorne daemons any good?
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Gargantuan Gargant
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Dakkamite wrote:Is Belakor khorneate or at least khorne friendly? I don't know anything at all about his backstory
He's one of the few Undivided Daemon Princes so he's an odd exception where he really goes and does what he wants so he could lead a mono-god/multi-god/whatever given that he's notorious for his manipulation and enigmatic mannerisms. Makes him seem a little Tzzentchy but then again he kinda got aspects of each God when he got elevated.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/12 23:34:06
Subject: Mono-Khorne daemons any good?
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Using Inks and Washes
St. George, Utah
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Dakkamite wrote:Is Belakor khorneate or at least khorne friendly? I don't know anything at all about his backstory
He's literally the first man turned into a Daemon Prince. He was that much of an evil bastard in meatlife.
He's like Abaddon in the sense he's blessed of all the Chaos Gods. If you think Abaddon is Khorne friendly, then Belakor is, too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/12 23:40:25
Subject: Mono-Khorne daemons any good?
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Disguised Speculo
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So, Thirster, Thirster, allied Belakor a good start to the list?
The Khorne Daemon Princes seem considerably worse than the Bloodthirster for like 95% of the price. Only downside is losing the heralds, which seem at first glance to be the best heralds in the book.
Would it be worth losing potential rage/hatred on hounds for a second Bloodthirster?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/13 00:21:56
Subject: Mono-Khorne daemons any good?
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Executing Exarch
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I would say no. Not necessarily for the rage/hate but for the AP2 weapon on the heralds and the loss of grimoire within a unit would be somewhat troubling.
Seems like a good start though. I would also avoid the khorne DPs if you can as they are just worse than the other alignments.
You can make a very good dog pile list with the above set up. One squad can get a grimoire and the other invisibility. If the dogs are not important you can instead safeguard the thirsters. Be'Lakor is a tough cookie when given any cover at all and is only a little bigger than infantry.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/13 00:29:16
Subject: Mono-Khorne daemons any good?
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
Ireland
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Bloodletters are somewhat improved if you give them the upgraded Icon (Banner of Blood). It costs ~2 Bloodletters but gives you a one use 6+D6" charge range. Given that the Bloodletters are likely to make only a single charge in a game it's useful to have a bit of a guarantee with them.
They still suffer horribly from having to either march across the field or deep strike in.
I've personally tried Deepstriking in squads of 15 with the Banner of Blood and using a Plague Drone's Icon for the D6" scatter but they do seem to die pretty damn quickly regardless of what I do.
Concerning the other Khorne units, I quite like the Skullcannon though this may be due to the number of Ork players I play but providing the effects of assault grenades to the likes of Fleshhounds can be quite useful if you need to charge into an aegis defense line.
Also with BS 5 it's rare enough you miss.
Bloodcrushers are certainly overpriced for what you get and the T4 makes them too susceptible to Instant Death. They can be used as a fast moving Icon for deepstriking the aforementioned Bloodletters, but I honestly think Plague Drones are better at this.
They're cheaper without upgrades, more difficult to instant death and Daemons still get a D6" scatter even if they're Daemons of a different god. Plus they're arguably faster but as you're looking at mono-Khorne, this wouldn't really work.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/13 01:16:26
Subject: Mono-Khorne daemons any good?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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At adepticon I am playing pure khorne for exterminus.
Ann'grath for lord of war
Skarbrand
Bloodthirster
2 squads of letters
Skull kannon
2 flying princes
Will it win probally not but it will be fun to play
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/13 06:07:29
Subject: Re:Mono-Khorne daemons any good?
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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Oh, i remember your proposed rules on khornate nobz =)
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