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I was playing today and my plasma guns got hot meaning I lost a guy. The squd had 4 people so the death of my guy meant I lost 25% of my squad. Does this result in me making a morale check? do you have to make orale checks for losses fro getting hot in your own turn?

Yes, it doesn't matter why casualties occur or from what source.

Page 29 informs us when to take Moral Tests and I am not seeing an exception for self-inflicted wounds, or any other exceptions. I woulds say it is pretty safe to state one must test every time they meet the requirements found on this page, unless a Special Rule in play states otherwise of course. The example used even brings forth one such situation of 'self-inflicted wounds,' moving through dangerous terrain, to highlight this point. I have even viewed some of the Frequently Asked Questions, because those occasionally blind side me, and did not find anything in a casual glance through.

Therefore, I have to say that Get Hot is enough to cause a Moral test.

actually want to clarify something with people, just checking that everyone is aware that the gets hot rule isn't so bad these days?

you don't take a hit from the weapon anymore you just take a wound with normal saves permitted.

also to answer the op, yes you would need to test in the event you lost the guy, its a bit sucky but it happens.

Nutty_Nutter,
It is a good point, I have had to correct a few opponents when they simply removed the model before making any saves. A few have stated it is because the weapon is AP Y and Strength X, therefore would go through armour and be an instant gib on most human equivalent units. Logical but not correct from a Rule as Written perspective. The Wound being generated does not have a strength or AP value assigned to it, so it can not be an AP value low enough to get around Armour saves or a strength high enough to instant gib a model.

Personally I just stay away from Get Hot, or any rule which involves self-inflicted wounds on a 1. Simply put: I am known as Jinx for a reason and rolling 1's in a row is my thing. My personal best is losing 4 sniper drones to dangerous terrain tests, through saves and all, before my opponent even had a chance to move a single model. Since that day I have always taken the difficult terrain penalty and walked the damn things towards my enemy.

 nutty_nutter wrote:
actually want to clarify something with people, just checking that everyone is aware that the gets hot rule isn't so bad these days?

you don't take a hit from the weapon anymore you just take a wound with normal saves permitted.

also to answer the op, yes you would need to test in the event you lost the guy, its a bit sucky but it happens.

IIRC, you never did take a hit from the weapon at least as far back as third edition. Its always been just a wound.

Did they not change the wording a little?
I sort of remember, Fifth is not my strong point even without memory issues, that the wording used to contain some clause along the lines of 'as if hit by the weapon' which would make the AP and strength relevant.

No, that was not the case in fifth, of fourth.

Gets hot has been the exact same in 3rd, 4th and 5th iirc. Unless 2nd ed had something crazy it has never been about taking a hit from the weapon instead of the target.

Then where is this conception that an over-heating plasma rifle does not allow an armour save coming from?

JinxDragon wrote:
Then where is this conception that an over-heating plasma rifle does not allow an armour save coming from?

It comes from the assumption that since the hit is coming from a plasma gun, it uses plasma gun stats.

Hasn't actually been the case from 3rd ed onwards. I have a vague idea that it might have been the rule in 2nd ed (where it was only Chaos plasma that got hot) but I'm on my first coffee of the morning and too lazy to get up and go dig out the 2nd ed codex to check...

I think I was a kid when that thing was written....

Just throwing it out there but does it really make sense that you would get an armour save against an AP2 gun venting superheated plasma into your face.

My buddy always makes his armour saves, and it has come to be somewhat of a joke.

Hey what? Plasma Pistol got hot? Just tuck it under your armpit to muffle the explosion!

:whumpfh:

Hey look! Not a scratch!

Who would build a gun that's emergency procedure is to immolate the holder with the full power of the weapon?

 liturgies of blood wrote:
Who would build a gun that's emergency procedure is to immolate the holder with the full power of the weapon?

Gets Hot does not always represent the weapon exploding in a fiery plume or killing its wielder.

It represents either an emergency heat venting, which simply incapacitates its user, or the gun malfunctioning and the user leaving the battlefield with an important piece of equipment to ensure it doesn't get lost.

It can represent a critical failure resulting in an explosion but such an event would be incredibly rare, unless you are Orks or something. In which case it most certainly does represent an explosion

 liturgies of blood wrote:
Who would build a gun that's emergency procedure is to immolate the holder with the full power of the weapon?

orks .... the gibbins is more valuable than the orksy

Correct me if I'm wrong but don't you only take the morale test if you take 25% casualties in your opponents shooting phase? If it was all casualties then watch your step in dangerous terrain. lol

 Bausk wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong but don't you only take the morale test if you take 25% casualties in your opponents shooting phase?

No. It's 25% casualties in ANY Shooting or Movement phase. And extra rules for Assault phases. Page 29 of the BRB.

From a cinematographic view,
Creating balls of plasma, ions, choas elements or the likes would involve some sort of protective/protective field. Should that field get warped there could be intense heat in front of the user as most of it gets through. It isn't the full blast by far but it is very dangerous and would often devastate those without reinforced battle armour to begin with.

 liturgies of blood wrote:
Gets hot has been the exact same in 3rd, 4th and 5th iirc.

For these purposes, it was the same. For awhile there, though, the number you needed to roll was the number of shots you were firing with that weapon, so if you fired two shots with a plasma gun, both shots would overheat on ones or twos.

It comes from second, you applied the as modifier if it got hot