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The current list I run has my ark bubble wrapped with scarabs early game to help put off would be deep strikers. Next game has a bit of a points reduction so I was thinking about this.

What happens when you put the ark behind a ADL, does it benefit from the cover save. Also with actual line of sight can it shoot because yes this will get argued in my group.

If I can use this then it will greatly benefit from me also running zandrekh as I could give it stealth.

I've done sum searching around but couldn't find a conclusive answer.

Cheers for your help.

If the wall covers 25% or more of the arc it gets cover if not it doesn't.

Unfortunately all the terrain pieces are at the house we play our matches.

Was more hoping that someone had experience in using this set up.

No one can answer your question.

Putting a model behind a ADL does not mean you automatically get cover.

How tall is the model shooting at the barge?

Is the model on a hill? Top floor of a ruin?

The game uses true line of sight.

You bend over and look at the barge from the eyes of the model shooting at it. If the barge is 25% obscured, you get cover. If its not, you don't.

Perhaps I should of worded it better, has anyone had experience with putting a skimmer behind a ADL!

crayz_d wrote:
Perhaps I should of worded it better, has anyone had experience with putting a skimmer behind a ADL!

It happens all the time, the issue here is that simply being behind an ADL in relation to the firing unit does not grant you the cover save. Vehicles are required to be 25% obstructed to claim the cover save. So 25% of the Ark itself needs to be 'covered up' by the ADL from the Point of View of the firing unit (or the appropriate gun, if it is a vehicle firing at it) to be able to claim the cover save from the ADL.

Not to mention, that a riptide can see over an ADL a heck of alot easier than a grot. A model on an upper floor would also see over an ADL better than a model on the ground level.

Without knowing the exact circumstances, there is no way to tell you an answer.

Sometimes a barge will get a cover save from an ADL, sometimes it won't. Bend over and look is the only way to find out.

In answer to your question, generally no. Most skimmer bases are high enough that the wall is shorter than the skimmer base (this means that more than likely well past 80% of your model will be above the ADL). My Tau tanks pretty much never gain any benefit from an Aegis line, while my space marine tanks are almost always able to get a cover save from being behind the ADL.

It shouldn't get a cover save. The ADL should only cover the "feet" of the inverted ribs. I don't think you could really say that's 25% of the model covered. Distance is the Ark's best protection.
That said, are you actually getting good work out of yours? Mine is almost never worth it, the HS slots going to barges or scythes instead.

Yeah, my anni barges rarely get a cover save since they are too high on the flyer base. I'd try putting it on a sky shield landing pad. The save is a little higher but cover saves aren't what they used to be with perfect timing and Tau everywhere now. I had two IG tanks blown up turn one by a psyker manning the icarus and casting perfect timing.

just pay 25pt more and get a skyshield landing pad so it gets a 4+ invun save

Thanks for the info guys that's exactly what I was looking for.

Never run one before so I'm going to try the ark and stalker combo. With the added power of 2 night scythes and 2 anni barges this should be scary to face.

The main issue I have with the ark after reading tactics with it is keeping it alive. I'm just trying to come up with ideas to make it more survivable. Thinking of the scarab bubble wrap but the game I in has had a points drop forcing me to consider other options. The sky shield is something I haven't considered so will definatly look into that one.

If you want protection for your arks you are better off getting a skyshield landing pad vs. an ADL. It will give you a 4+ invulnerable that cannot be bypassed except for D weapons.

crayz_d wrote:
Thanks for the info guys that's exactly what I was looking for.

Never run one before so I'm going to try the ark and stalker combo. With the added power of 2 night scythes and 2 anni barges this should be scary to face.

The main issue I have with the ark after reading tactics with it is keeping it alive. I'm just trying to come up with ideas to make it more survivable. Thinking of the scarab bubble wrap but the game I in has had a points drop forcing me to consider other options. The sky shield is something I haven't considered so will definatly look into that one.

If you are bubble wrapping on a skyshield and have a spare allies slot you should consider cultists with MoT, they get a 3++ vs shooting and are scoring for only 6 ppm. Lets you bring along a heldrake too but you have to pay the lord tax.