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I want to do something on the more shooty, offensive side, but not instantly die in CC
I was thinking about something like this-
HQ- Vulkan He'stan
Bray'arth Ashmantle, DP- Warlord
Troops-
10 Tacts- HF, Flamer, DP
10 Scouts- Snipers, Camo
Heavy Support-
6 DCents, Omniscope, Gravcannon
4 DCents, Omniscope, Gravcannon
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Allies-
Coteaz
Warband- 10 Acyoltes, 7 with HotShots, 3 with Combi-Metlas (Plas guns maybe?), Chimera
Warband- 8 Crusdaers

Isn't Ashmantle restricted to only being able to be your Warlord if there are no other eligible choices?

And can I ask a personal question- with only three weapons that benefit from the Chapter Tactics of the Salamanders, why even go with that army choice at that point? Do you think that with this loadout you might be better off with a different Chapter? Not trying to be mean, just curious.

its more of a personal, narrative thing. I love them, they are painted all green, the hq's are badass... this isnt the typical Salamander army, but its still one.
also, lets count.
2 from Bray'arth, 1 from vulkan, 2 from tacts, 3 from warriors, 1 from chimera. so its like 8... still not the best but i mean

Also ill triple check the warlord thing

Can tacticals take heavy flamers?

Huh. Do allied Inquisition forces gain the benefit of Vulkan's mastercrafting? I didn't know that. My bad. Question withdrawn.

Its in the heavy weapons!

 screaminskull wrote:
Can tacticals take heavy flamers?

They cannot. I didn't catch that. There's a footnote that only Legion of the Damned and Sternguard can take them.

Is it mate? I thought it was restricted to sternguard. My apologies.

 Jimsolo wrote:
Huh. Do allied Inquisition forces gain the benefit of Vulkan's mastercrafting? I didn't know that. My bad. Question withdrawn.

I don't see how they would, Vulkan's melta buff only applies to models in his detachment (unless there's some loophole in the rules that makes Inquisitors part of his detachment).

Sorry that was for feheykeyes - Not got the hang of the quote thing yet.

 DanielBeaver wrote:

 Jimsolo wrote:
Huh. Do allied Inquisition forces gain the benefit of Vulkan's mastercrafting? I didn't know that. My bad. Question withdrawn.

I don't see how they would, Vulkan's melta buff only applies to models in his detachment (unless there's some loophole in the rules that makes Inquisitors part of his detachment).

I thought that allies from the Inquisition codex (not Grey Knights) DID count as part of your primary detachment. I know they don't take up the allies slot. Are they their own, third slot?

1) Bray'arth Ashmantle does not have a leadership value so he is not a valid warlord choice. He has a rule that states if you have no valid warlord choice then he can be the warlord but depending on where you are pulling Coteaz and the henchmen from you have one or two valid GQ choices in this list.
2) Tactical Squads cannot have heavy flamers, while they are a heavy weapon you'll note on page 159 of your codex that they are limited to Sternguard/Legion of the Damned.
3) Your inquisition forces are not part of the same detachment as your salmanders, nor do they have the chapter tactics special rule. They would need both to benefit from the chapter tactics rules.
4) Your inquisition forces are not part of the same detachment as Vulkan. They will not benefit from Vulkan's forgfather rule.

On a tactical standpoint. I'm not sure how good a list this is. What comes in 1st, the tactical squad or Bray'arth? Is Vulkan going to be on his own, or will he join one of the DCents squads at deployment? What kind of list is this meant to go against? Anything with mobile metla weapons and a decent amount of shooting has far better odds of busting this up before you have a chance to use most of your fancy toys, and in my opinion the armies those DCents will be good egainst are armies with mobile melta and a decent amount of shooting.


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 Jimsolo wrote:

 DanielBeaver wrote:

 Jimsolo wrote:
Huh. Do allied Inquisition forces gain the benefit of Vulkan's mastercrafting? I didn't know that. My bad. Question withdrawn.

I don't see how they would, Vulkan's melta buff only applies to models in his detachment (unless there's some loophole in the rules that makes Inquisitors part of his detachment).

I thought that allies from the Inquisition codex (not Grey Knights) DID count as part of your primary detachment. I know they don't take up the allies slot. Are they their own, third slot?

They are indeed their own, third slot. Its called an Inquisitorial Detachment.