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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/21 00:36:59
Subject: white scar bikers
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Death-Dealing Ultramarine Devastator
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To me, they are fantastic. To my friend, they are just average.
He plays DE and is convinced that poison weapons and lances make them an awful choice to field.
Maybe I'm just ignorant, or jaded, but with everything white scar tactics gives them, how can they be bad?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/21 00:43:41
Subject: white scar bikers
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
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Well, Dark Eldar weapons are poisoned so they wound on the same value regardless of toughness, and lances will ignore armor and wound them on 2s as well. Space Marine bikers (and White Scar ones in particular) are very, very strong these days, but Dark Eldar have a lot of counters for them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/21 00:50:36
Subject: white scar bikers
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Death-Dealing Ultramarine Devastator
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Poison weapons will still wound on 4s,, and they'll still have a 4+ jink against lance without turbo boosting. Also still getting normal armor saves against poison.
I still have a hard time accepting that they are a bad choice here. DE doesn't ignore cover, or armor without lance.
They don't combine high strength and ignore cover. So yeah, wounding easier, but still getting normal saves across the board.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/21 02:18:56
Subject: Re:white scar bikers
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Executing Exarch
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White scars is a very strong army. DE or otherwise if you get good with them they will give a good game against anything.
Poison weapons are annoying however the paper boats that are DE skimmers are very easy for white scars to destroy. Games between the two factions are bloody affairs usually won by the person that lured the other player out of range of objectives.
Your friend is not really correct about lances. They do wound and go through armour easy but they are relatively expensive to be allowing a 4+ cover save when being shot at basic troops. They also are better shot at the stormtalon or stormraven you will inevitability bring. Either of those flyers will shred through DE skimmers BTW.
If nothing else when you scout your entire army up 12" and are within charge range of him bottom of turn 1 he will be very surprised.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/21 03:03:22
Subject: white scar bikers
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Death-Dealing Ultramarine Devastator
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The white scars list I'd run would inevitably include:
Khan!
CM, with all the goodies, bike, artificer, PF, shield eternal
2 storm talons
1 storm raven (maybe)
Then max bikes.
On a side note, does adding the attack bike with melta to the bike squads add much? It clocks in at almost the cost of two bikes. Not necessarily just against DE, but in general is it a good choice?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/21 14:58:26
Subject: Re:white scar bikers
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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Mike and BrotherSRM, we're all playing a crazy apoc game tomorrow! Beer and shothammer for the win!
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