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Grovelin' Grot




United Kingdom

ANY advice on facing Tau (Cadre Fireblade, 2 xRiptide, 2 x Fire Warrior Team, 1 Pathfinder Team, 1 Sun Shark Bomber and 1 Broadside Team Shas’ui).

And ANY advice on facing Crons (2 x Croissants, Flayed Ones, Trazyn, Scarabs and Arks)
 
Need some good tactics using the below list: -
 
Warboss - Attack Squig, BP, Cybork, Stikkbombs, Twin-linked Shoota and PK
Boss’s Nobz – 4 x Cybork and PK. 4 x Cybork and BC. 1 x Painboy Cybork
Dedicated Transport – Battlewagon - ‘Ard case, Grot Riggers, Killkannon, Grabbin Klaw, Stikkbomb chucka, Reinforced Ram and 1 Big Shoota
 
Meganobz – 3 MANZ with Skorcha Kombis
Dedicated Transport – Trukk - Reinforced Ram, Armour plates, Grot Riggers, Wreckin’ ball and Big Shoota
 
Lootaz - 10 x Lootaz. 2 x Meks with Big Shootaz
 
Big Mek - Kustom force field
 
Shootaboyz - 17 x Boyz w Stikkbombs. 2 x Big Shootaz w Stikkbombs. 1 x Nob w BP, BC and Stikkbombs.
 
Sluggaboyz - 18 x Boyz w Stikkbombs. 1 Big Shoota w Stikkbombs. 1 x Nob w BP, BC and Stikkbombs.
 
3 x Deffkoptaz - w TL Rokkit Launchaz
 
Big Mek - Shokk Atack Gun
 
Sluggaboyz - 15 x Boyz w Stikkbombs. 1 x Nob w BP, BC and Stikkbombs.
 
Thanks in advance
 

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Is that a full list, or the models you have available to you?

There's 3 HQs listed there, so if it's a list intended to be above 2k to allow double FOC, it looks like you're light on troops.

Also, would proxying the sluggaboyz as shootas be a problem?

Are stikkbombz giving you enough return for the points when you consider you could just buy more boys to shoot with?
   
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!!Goffik Rocker!!






Stickbommz are useless. 4 pks on nobz is an overkill - 1 or 2 is enough. Anywayz, you need more boyz in wagonz or bikernobz with bikerbosses if you wana win someone more or less competitive.
Wagonz need to be opentopped and cheap so a ram and 1-2 bigshootas or a deffrolla instead of a ram. Trucks need to be as cheap as possible with a ram at best.

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Grovelin' Grot




United Kingdom

Hi Thanks for the feedback –
 
@ Delakar – That’s a full list, comes in at just under 1850. Basically myself and a few friends are having a day of gaming (I’m facing 4 different armies as well as the Tau and Crons, and I’ve beat all 4 of the other armies a few times before using the list I put, hence why I want to see if anyone has any tips against Tau or Crons with it). We’re allowed one 1850 list to use for every game.
It’s 2 HQs from primary detachment and 1 HQ from Allied detachment.
I possibly would be allowed to proxy sluggaz as Shootaz yes, good point. Thanks
Stikkbomb wise, it’s because the Imperial Fist player I’m facing first never remembers I can chuck them on to the buildings he always hides on.
 
@ koooaei – Thanks for the advice but this is troops I’ve got available to use, so I’m after tactics to use against Tau and Crons specifically using the list I made. I already have a rough plan to take out ML’s as soon as possible, run bw and trukk as far up field as possible before it gets immobilised and drop off MANZ and cyborkz to smash face. I agree that 4 PKS is a lot, my thinking is I’ll at least have one left if I manage to get into cc after overwatch and support fire.  
 
Thanks

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I don't think you can ally orks with orks. Thus, not 3 hq's.

I really don't see how you wana beat tau with just 1 wagon and no nob bikers. Probably just spread and sit on points behind blos hoping he won't kill too much before the game end. U really can't do anything with footslogas there.
In such dire situation, i'd spread boyz to get more squads to sit behind blos on points, put boss with meganobz in a truck, mek with nobz in a wagon and try to push the flank hiding a truck behind wagon and blos - but not too close to avoid being hit by a riptide template - hoping he won't kaboom a 14 av front wagon. Spread the koptas in squads of ones. When he kills everyone on the front - hope he won't have time to deal with u'r scoring.
   
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Grovelin' Grot




United Kingdom

That's what I was afraid of lol.
should of mentioned HR allowing me to ally orkz with orkz.
Thanks for the advice mate

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Yep, note that with what you got, you have slim chances vs tau only if you play flawlessly and the map is heavy on blos so that you can completely hide at least 2-3 small squads. Otherwise you have no chances at all - so, insist on a heavy blos terrain.

Best wagon composition:
1-2 bigshootas
ram/deffrolla

if you gottons of spare points - take rpj or grot riggers. No other stuff is needed there. Never take 'ard case. A combination of Opentopped + 14 front armor + 20 transport capacity + relatively cheap pointcost is what makes wagonz one of the best assault transports in the whole game. Kff mek helps either.

If you had at least 2-3 wagonz i'd suggest you going offensive but 1 and a truck will just never be enough in 500+ games. So you got to be cunnin' and use distraction upon distraction to pull a win. I've written what i'd do. Place points behind blos, sit on them with ork boyz. Footsloggas are not gona be useful with just 1 wagon. All you can do is push a flank and sit on points hoping that the wagon will endure 2 turns of shooting at it, truck will be totally unseen behind it and that you can wipe as much as you can with a multicharge when and if you get there. In any case u'll get shot down the next turn but at least you got a chance to hold them back and to kill something so that it will be easier for backfield boyz to endure the rest of the game.

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Grovelin' Grot




United Kingdom

Brilliant, thanks mate. I've never faced tau, not particularly looking forward to it. It's ok, that list will krump the IF and BT I'm facing

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