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So Adepticon is a little over a month away and after playing a Adepticon Team Primer this last weekend I feel my list may need some tweaking. My partner played Necrons and I Dark Eldar. We considered trying to abuse night fighting with Imotekh and or crpyteks but chose not to go that route for various reasons (good thing since we face Taudar twice and Tau/Whitescars bikes in the other game.....wow does ignoring cover and night fight hurt us). We did well winning our first 2 rounds, and finally lost to the second of the Taudar Lists. Here is what I ran. I am looking for suggestions as to how to make a HARDER list. I am currently trying to utilize the FOC that allows me 2 elite choices.

For those not familiar with the Adpeticon Team FoC.

1 HQ , 1-3 Troops, 1 Fast Attack, 1-2 Elites, 1 Heavy (each person takes different chart allowing either 1-2 elites 1-2 FA, 1-2 HS, or 1 Fort)


The Baron - 105

5 Warriors - Raider , splinter racks, lance - 115
5 Warriors - Venom, Dual Splinters - 110
5 Warriors - Venom, Dual Splinters - 110

4 Beastmasters, 5 khymerae, 4 razorwing flocks - 168


3 Blasterborn- Venom, Dual Splinters - 146
3 Trueborn (2 blaster, 1 splinter) , Venom Dual Splinters - 141

1 Ravager - 3x Lances - 105

=1000pt

An easy switch is getting another Venom in there instead of the raider since 5 in the raider is not optimal. But i dont mind having the 3 HP vehicle with the extra pop shot lance.

Any ideas are welcome as to how to make something just down right dirty. We will be playing against plenty of shenanigans in the tournament... The other current armies we are taking are Necrons few flyers 2 barges possible wraiths or deathmark cryptek combo), CSM 2 helldrakes or 1 helldrake with a mini spawn star, Daemons sky shield landing pad a few ground threats (dogs and fiends) and some horrors.

Keeping the raider is OK, but you should really drop splinter racks-it is never worth it on 5 warriors. That would free up points to get a 3rd blaster for your trueborn instead of 2 and a splinter cannon.

Spend the spare points on...well pretty much anything. TGL for the ravager, or trophies for something, or a shredder for the warriors...really anything.

Right, with a Necron Ally there are a lot of things you could do. For example if you where running a Beast Star and he was running a Wraithwing that would be a very effective fast attack kind of army. Just a few things to mention, you have an extra beast master spare. 1 Per 5 Khymerae and 1 per 2 flock means you only need 3. Also why on earth do you have a splinter cannon in with the Blasterborn, that is just wrong...plain wrong 3 Blaster or 2.Cannon is the way it should be depending on what kind of AT or AI your ally has.

Yeah I realized I had an extra beastmaster too late (on the way to the tourney)... whoops. The bc of pts and the extra splinter was for turn 1 extra shots with the venom when the blasters are out of range. But I agree pairing wraiths with the beastpack would allow for 1 nice screen. 2 a nasty amount of threat coming quickly across the board.

You Should Just run Tau and Eldar and Not tell people what anything Does and Only get 3 turns in and slow play ur opponents its the bet way to win!