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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/24 18:53:53
Subject: Eldar 1500 to 2000 list tips and advice welcome.
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I am fairly new to wargaming and have been building an Eldar army for about a year. I play casual games with friends mostly against Necrons, Chaos and regular Space Marines, and Imperial guard. The only army I have faced and not defeated is the Necrons so any tips against them will be very helpful. Here is the list I'm running and since I play casually I can proxy in any models so any additional unit advice is welcome.
Eldrad
1 Farseer
3 warlocks
Illic
5 dark reapers with exarch and fast shot
9 dire avengers with pw and shield exarch
14 guardians with sl platform
3 warwalkers (1 with two bl) (2 with eml and bl)
1 wave serpent with sl and shur cannon
1 fire prism
6 swooping hawks with exarch
1 support weapon with shadow weaver
Getting a wraith knight with sun cannon and 1 sl later this week to add to the mix.
I know I'm not spot on with the force organization chart but once again I only play casual games so we give eachother some slack. Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated for I am still in my learning curve and will take any help I can get.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/24 19:25:53
Subject: Re:Eldar 1500 to 2000 list tips and advice welcome.
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Executing Exarch
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What aspects of Necrons are you having trouble with?
Monoliths? - Fire Dragons / Wraithguard with Wraithcannons / WraithKnight with Heavy Wraithcannons
Night/Doom Sythes? - Crimson Hunter / Aegis Defence Line ( Non-Imperial versions are out there http://www.shop.microartstudio.com/wraithstone-defence-line-p-987.html) / Warp Spiders ( Guided can get good S7 hits on flyers)
Personally, I find that only 2 troops at 1500 is too few, but YMMV.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/24 21:55:03
Subject: Eldar 1500 to 2000 list tips and advice welcome.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I would hold out on the WK for now, I would start out with adding 2 more support weapons for a unit of 3, another serpent for guardians, and some jetbikes.
Ps. How did you manage on 14 guardians with 10 in a box?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/24 22:29:45
Subject: Eldar 1500 to 2000 list tips and advice welcome.
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Agile Revenant Titan
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And that list is super illegal.
3 Hqs,
4 heavy supports....
And everything just is..... weird
Waralker load out?
Illic?
wave serpent upgrades?
2 ok troop?
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I do drugs.
Mostly Plastic Crack, but I do dabble in Cardboard Cocaine. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/25 00:34:11
Subject: Re:Eldar 1500 to 2000 list tips and advice welcome.
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I know that list isn't legal and I am working toward purchasing more troops and all to remedy that issue. Its an expensive hobby and sometimes tough to improve on with a limited budget. That list also is not set in stone, its just the models I own and base my list off of. I only play casually with friends for now and I proxy in empty bases to represent other units to play test with to help decide what I will buy.
My main problems with the necrons are doom sythes, immortals, and I'm not sure the name but some unit and hq that can teleport. That and of course the res rolls.
The previous list is my main force which I modify by adding in an extra squad of rangers, dire avengers or wraith blades depending on what I'm up against. I also only field two hqs per game only using illic when facing necrons.
Here are the rolls I play with my core units.
3 warwalkers (one with 2 bl) (two with an eml and bl) anti tank/air
1 fire prism with holo fields for anti tank/infantry
1 wave serpant with sl and shur cannon, holo field, star engines, and trgt matrix
5 dark reapers with fast shot exarch for anti tank/infantry
14 guardians with sl platform for infantry/ cannon fodder
9 dire avengers with pw shield exarch in serpent for infantry and capping
6 swooping hawks with talon exarch for anti infantry or to haywire tanks
1-3 support weapons with shadow weaver for anti infantry
1 warlock to conceal the guardians
1 warlock to conceal or buff the support weapon
Eldrad to buff and help the dire avengers
Farseer to buff the warwalkers or another unit I may field.
I admit I am a noob and am here for the advice of the veterans to help me represent the eldar to their full potential. Please criticize and help point me in the right direction to keep our dwindling Eldar away from the infinity circuit and back to their prime.
Ps. You can buy a box with four guardians for around $11
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/25 14:19:09
Subject: Eldar 1500 to 2000 list tips and advice welcome.
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Agile Revenant Titan
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Heres a solid list that uses some of your models, others youll have to proxy buy.
Hq
farseer (if you have a jetbike add one here) 100(115)
troop
5 dire avengers wave serpent (tl scatter laser, shuiken cannon, holofields) 210 shoot the wave serpents shield everytime for 11 or so s6-7 twin linked shots. Nasty.
5 dire avengers wave serpent (same as above, proxy fireprism proxy) 210
10 gardians, starcannon 215
10 gaurdians, star cannon (proxy 5 guys) 215
FAST
6 swooping hawks
heavy support
3 war walker, x6 bright lances 210 (dont ever mix roles on war walkers, it reduces there efficiency by a good amount.
3 support weapons shadow weavers 90
5 dark reapers, 5 star shot, exarch with fast shot. 250?
Decent list. Have to prozy a good amount tho
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/25 15:21:23
Subject: Eldar 1500 to 2000 list tips and advice welcome.
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Thanks, ill give that list a try and see how I fare. A few questions though. What is the best roll for the farseer to fill in that list and besides point cost why choose him over Eldrad?
On another note the reason I threw in the eml's in the warwalker list was to potentially add flack missles for skyfire because I regularly have problems with necron doom sythes. You think the 1 walker with two bl and the other two with a bl and eml on each is that bad of an idea? Automatically Appended Next Post: You also didn't mention using an exarch for the dire avengers. Will they still be effective without spending the extra points for the exarchs?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/25 16:53:03
Subject: Eldar 1500 to 2000 list tips and advice welcome.
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Executing Exarch
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radlE wrote:You also didn't mention using an exarch for the dire avengers. Will they still be effective without spending the extra points for the exarchs?
Unless the squad is full, it's almost always better to spend the points on an extra Dire Avenger than on the Exarch upgrade - 4 shots at BS4 is better than 2 at BS5. It only exaggerates once you add weapons / Exarch powers. A Shimmershield provides the unit with a save against things like Heldrakes, and is the most likely upgrade to make it's points back.
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