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I've been toying around with the idea of having a Warbiker Warboss, but instead of using him with nob bikers, I've been thinking of joining him with regular boyz, like I normally would with a Megawarboss.

I'm pretty sure it's possible, but would it be viable? And if the Bikerboss is getting shot at, does he still get his cover save he gets from the bike?

He still gets cover but his toughness is gona be 4 which is really bad for what you pay. He's better not used as a tank this way. If you have a bikerboss and don't have nob bikers - go for it.

Another option to run a bikerboss is with commandos+snikrot. Not awesome as in 5 ed but still doable. Though, i don't see any other option being as good as bikernobz+bikerboss.

Theres at least one good Ork player on here who does this, treating the boyz as wounds for the boss instead of the boss as a tank for the boyz

I've had a bit of success with running Deffkoptas and a Bikerboss. For just over 100% of a bikerbosses cost you give him outflanking/scout, quadruple his wounds and... sextuple (?) his shooting (not to mention the range). He in turn goes a long way towards fixing terrible Deffkopta leadership, and makes all those koptas you have sitting around from AoBR useful.

Edit; also Hit and Run lets him hide in a tarpit for the enemies turn, then H&R out just in time to go hit something useful

I'm quite sure you can't give scout to a boss if he joins koptas. That limits the use of such a combo. Other than that, they're pretty much like nob bikers with better shooting range but without good cc and fnp. Cheaper, less numerous, no 5++ and no combi-scorchas (that Dakkamite adores ). Odd combination, but might work if u're desperate to get those cheap (for irl money) koptas u've bought

Don't have my rules on me but I know you can put a scout character in a unit to give it scout, so I'm assuming it works the other way too

Hate how some rules work like this, but others like that...

Hm, on the second thought, you might be right about scouts. I think i've used 5 ed interpretation for scout where all the models needed it. Now it seems to work like move through cover and hit&run - if 1 model has - count all squad as so.
Thanks, u're helpful as always! Theat's really a great idea. I think i know what's gona be next crazy unit i'm fielding!


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Green Scars! 2 bikerbosses with cyborks, squigs, pk, bp and 2 units of 5 barebonez koptaz. Scout, Hit and Run, nice shooting. Awesome flank harrassers. and 2 times cheaper than bikes

 Dakkamite wrote:
Don't have my rules on me but I know you can put a scout character in a unit to give it scout, so I'm assuming it works the other way too

Hate how some rules work like this, but others like that...

Well I know that in 5th edition some people used Snikrot to sneak in a Ghazghkull Thraka or a Bikerboss on the flank.

And I also know that there was somebody on this forum who was swearing by putting a Bikerboss in a Deffkopta squad.

I can't remember his name, but I was just reading on Dakka about how you could put a Bikerboss in with a SINGLE Deffkopta. According to toughness majority rules, that means both models are T6. That means 2 ablative wounds at T6. Absolutely genius idea. I wish I would have thought of it.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/464007.page?userfilterid=47876

 Ghenghis Jon wrote:
Biker Boss by himself is not a great option.He needs ablative wounds. Give him an attack squig and a single Deffkopta to join. They are a T6 unit. The Deffkopta can keep up, take Look Out Sir! wounds, and even break off to tank hunt himself if he survives. Been thinking about running Wazzdakka with 5 of them.

Sounds utterly brilliant to me. And I believe he'd get Scout too.

 Dakkamite wrote:
Theres at least one good Ork player on here who does this, treating the boyz as wounds for the boss instead of the boss as a tank for the boyz

I've had a bit of success with running Deffkoptas and a Bikerboss. For just over 100% of a bikerbosses cost you give him outflanking/scout, quadruple his wounds and... sextuple (?) his shooting (not to mention the range). He in turn goes a long way towards fixing terrible Deffkopta leadership, and makes all those koptas you have sitting around from AoBR useful.

Edit; also Hit and Run lets him hide in a tarpit for the enemies turn, then H&R out just in time to go hit something useful

This is a fantastic tactic, the koptas are ablative wounds for the boss and you get to move across the board in no time.

I freaking LOVE the idea of a Warboss in a Deffkopta, although I'm not exactly hopeful that the 6E Codex is going to make my dream of a Flyboss come true. >.<

I've tried bikerboss + 5 koptas in last game. Yep, they're not nearly as tough and hardhitting like bikernobz. They're not scoring. But boy, they're fast! scoutmove 12' + flatout 12' on boss and up to 24' on koptas. I've reached enemie's sniper scouts and 2 tfc by turn 2! Awesome flank-pushers. I think they can find a place in small games due to their insane mobility.

I put a BikeBoss with 30 Slugga Boyz in my foot lists all the time.

I have tried running a BikeBoss with Stormboyz, but they die way too fast.

A lot of things are different now, so I haven't used a BikeBoss with a single Deffkopta since there are so many things that ignore cover and 4+ armour. The only times I do a bring an Outflanking BikeBoss and Deffkopta unit, or Kombi-Skorcha BikeBosses with Snikrot and two Burna Kommandos (3 or 4 Flame Templates wherever you want them is clutch), Zagstruck and his Stormboyz, or anything out of Reserves is when I am bring a Fortification with a Comms Relay. I have had crushing victories slowly slip away waiting for my hammer to come onto the table too many times.

I often run the warboss with a defkopta, but with boys the downside would be mass firepower, if the opponent can wiffle you down to 5 boys and the warboss then throw on a gakton of wounds due to toughness 4 you lose one of the best thigns about a warboss, the toughness of a monstrous creature at 6