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I've been reading mixed reports on this but cannot find the question being asked explicitly.

Nemesor Zahndrekh has the ability called Phased Reinforcements which allows a Necron player to deep strike any unit able to deep strike on their opponent's movement phase once one of the opposing units arrive from reserve.

Now a Cryptek of Despair can take a Veil of Darkness (or Obyron's Ghostwalk Mantle) which allows a unit they join to be removed from the table and deep strike back on immediately. Per the FAQ, this can be used to enter from reserves. The kicker though is that Crypteks nor Obyron have the Deep Strike special rule.

So my questions is this:

If I join a Cryptek to a unit of Deathmarks during deployment - could they take advantage of Zahndrekh's special rule?

Similarly - if, theoretically, Obyron joins a unit of Warriors (non-deep strikers) in reserve could they take advantage of the rule?


My interpretation is no (since the wargear doesn't state that it grants deep strike to the models); however, I have seen it played differently due to the FAQ.

Anyone have a thought on this?

   
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The Veil of Darkness only works when the unit is removed from the table in their movement phase.

Since the unit does not have the DS rule it can not use Phased Reinforcements

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I makes sense sense the ability doesn't require the unit to have DS (does it?). I'd say yes.

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 Co'tor Shas wrote:
I makes sense sense the ability doesn't require the unit to have DS (does it?). I'd say yes.
Yes the ability requires the unit to have DS...

Phased Reinforcements allows a Necron player to deep strike any unit able to deep strike.

If the unit is not able to DS then it can not use Phased Reinforcements

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 Co'tor Shas wrote:
I makes sense sense the ability doesn't require the unit to have DS (does it?). I'd say yes.


Phased Reinforcements explicitly states the unit has to be able to deep strike.

If Zahndrekh is on the battlefield, any number of units in reserve that are able to Deep Strike can choose to enter play in the enemy turn, via Deep Strike, immediately after any enemy unit has arrived from reserve, normally during the enemy's Movement phase.


   
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Ah, never mind then. I'm remembering my rules wrong.

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Q: Can a veil of darkness be used instead of moving onto the board
when a unit arrives from reserve? (p84)
A: Yes

Q: Can a unit of Deathmarks with an attached model from a Royal
Court Deep Strike? (p90)
A: No. Every model in a unit must have the Deep Strike
specialrule for it to do so.


The FAQ would seem to agree with the people above me. Deathmark + VOD squads don't deep strike. They choose to deploy from the VOD rather than walking onto the board.

   
 
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