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I haven't played with orks and was looking into them, and I like the like of the ork kommandos and do a list based around them. But I haven't seen anyone use them, I'm not an expert in orks but I want to know more about the kommandos, and if a list based around them would be possible. I will only do them for fun, fluff and there awesome looks but it won't harm me asking what they are like in a game.

They are elites to start. That and they have a max mob size of 15 with no survival buff of any kind. So they die like a standard Ork just cost more. Well they do infiltrated so there is a small advantage. Commandos were used by me in every game back in 5th due to Boss snikrot allowing them to come on any board edge, but now that they can't charge after they arrive they just stand there and die to enemy gun fire:(. If you like the models buy them paint them then Shelve them, and I wouldn't buy to many of them.

Can't assault from outflanking, and if you infiltrate them you cannot assault them if you go first due to the restriction from infiltrate USR.

If you outflank them the soonest they will show up is turn 2, so the soonest you can assault with them is turn 3. Not sure what your overall game plan is, but having a bunch of guys show up waving sluggas at the enemy on turn 2 or 3 is probably just some from kills unless you have other stuff ontop of the enemy already, or very threatening to make them pick targets. But if that's the case you were probably better off just taking more of the stuff that starts on the ground.

They are often better off infiltrating then outflanking.

If I were taking them to outflank I would probably just take 5 with 2 special weapons, like burnas. They could come in and flame something up to 13" from the table edge, then assault next turn with power weapon mode. Most backfield stuff of your opponent isn't going to fight off 5 orks on the charge, esp when 2 have power weapons. That's 6 str 4 power weapon attacks and 12 normal attacks. Which is enough to clear out a combat def squad, long fangs, artillery, a min sized low quality backfield objective holder.

I almost never do this, as even still theres so many other things I would rather spend 100 points.

I have used them a few times in 6th. Ive used snikrot each time to control where they come on. They have twice killed a small objective holder and twice been obliterated., so im about 50/50 on them, but leaning toward the fact that they are overcosted boys.

i use 5kommandos, 2 w/ burnas and snikrot. but really, for that many points I could get quite a bit more somewhere else in the army.

I think they could prove pretty cool in Kill Team though with stealth, infiltrate and move through cover.

Ork kommandos were one of my first ork models, so ive always had an affinity toward them. My ork tribe will be Blood Axe when I get to painting, and Snikrot is an awesome character. Outflanking orks are a good distraction unit that orks need to get the bigger mobs up the board. Snikrot outflanking on the enemys deployment zone has been great every time its been done for me, dropping a Mega Armored boss to rip stuff up, and Snikrot is good in cc as well. Sure a few Kommandos die since they sit there for a turn, but the next turn coming the Boss and Snikrot tend to murder things. Destroyed 2 Landraiders that way.

an army based around kommandoes is a little tricky seeing as you cant take them as troops, and if you dont use an elite slot on Nob Bikerz then I dont know what your doing...at least thats my rule of thumb, I dont know how other ork players feel about it.

 WE Drake Man wrote:
an army based around kommandoes is a little tricky seeing as you cant take them as troops, and if you dont use an elite slot on Nob Bikerz then I dont know what your doing...at least thats my rule of thumb, I dont know how other ork players feel about it.

Bikerboss w/ nob bikers = nobs are troop choice. So with that list, I am not using an elite spot on nob bikers.
But the other elite slot is lootas. So you would have to sacrifice the lootas for a full list of kommandos.

But honestly, the kommandos are so expensive. boys are ~6 pts for a reason. they die to anything. a kommando is more than twice that cost and for what? infiltrate?
Also you cant take them in 30-man blobs only 15 i think? plus they charge just as much as one kommando to give one guy a burna, which is really a 5pt upgrade in almost any other army. So you give the squad a couple burnas and snikrot and get everything in there for around 200 points. thats like 8 ork boys for 200 points that die just easily and have lousy leadership. And thats not even including a nob with a special weapon. If there was some way to give them a bunch of melta guns, that would be awesome. because you could come in from any edge and get right to rear armor. That would actually make it worth it in my opinion. or if they could charge on the turn they came in. that would be worth it also.