2000 point Empire - For Tournament and need input...

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**japehlio**

Hey guys,

This Sunday, I am taking part in a 2000 point uncomped tournament, 5 games using random once-per-day rulebook scenarios with the 20-0 dutch scoring system in place.
To that note, and understanding that I have to plan for winning both Watchtower and Blood and Glory , I have the two following lists in place, and was hoping you could give me a bit of feedback on my lists.

So, they are:

List A: Knights of the Roundish Table

Lords + (484pts)

* Battle Wizard Lord (225pts)
Lore of Light, Wizard Level 4
Earthing Rod

* Grand Master (259pts)
Shield (4pts)
Runefang, The Other Trickster's Shard

+ Heroes + (377pts)

* Battle Wizard
Lore of Beasts, Wizard Level 2
Dispel Scroll

* Captain of the Empire (144pts)
Battle Standard Bearer, Full Plate Armour , Lance
Charmed Shield, Dawnstone
Warhorse
Barding

* Warrior Priest (108pts)
Great Weapon, Heavy Armour
*Helm of the Skavenslayer, Luckstone
* Warhorse
Barding

+ Core + (585pts)

* Archers x10 (80pts)
Standard Bearer

* Halberdiers x30 (210pts)
FC)

* Knightly Orders Inner Circle x10 (295pts)
FC: Standard of Discipline

+ Special + (304pts)

* Demigryph Knights x3(184pts)
Musician

* Great Cannon (120pts)

+ Rare + (250pts)

* Celestial Hurricanum (130pts)

* Luminark of Hysh (120pts)

List 2: Lets Play Magic!

+ Lords + (480pts)

* Arch Lector (255pts)
* Magic Items (5pts)
Charmed Shield
* War Altar of Sigmar (150pts)

* Battle Wizard Lord (225pts)
Lore of Light, Wizard Level 4
Earthing Rod

+ Heroes + (291pts)

* Battle Wizard (80pts)
Lore of Light, Wizard Level 1
Channeling Staff

* Battle Wizard (90pts)
Lore of Light, Wizard Level 1
Dispel Scroll

* Captain of the Empire (121pts)
Battle Standard Bearer, Full Plate Armour
Dawnstone, Enchanted Shield

+ Core + (584pts)

* Archers x10 (80pts)

Standard Bearer

* Halberdiers x39 (264pts)
FC

* Knightly Orders x5(120pts)
Standard Bearer

* Knightly Orders x5(120pts)
Standard Bearer

+ Special + (394pts)

* Demigryph Knights x3 (184pts)
Musician

Great Cannon

5x Pistoliers (90pts)

+ Rare + (250pts)

* Steam Tank

Iv had success with both of the lists, dealing with both the Daemon Price of doom and Skillbanner hordes, but I am really second guessing myself now, and would appreciate a bit of input from you guys on which is best/worst and why.
Also, if you have any changes please let me know what you'd change, assume I have enough to change anything/add anything.

One final thing, Death is really not big in my Meta, so Im not TOO worried about snipe spells...

Cheers

**StormKing**

Not much to say but I think you should take a hell blaster and maybe some great swords for a nice strong unit.
I liked the first list over the second though. I am not sure about the demigryph knights but if you like them go for it. I don't play empire often so just take what I say as the LAW! Just joking

**KeyserSoze**

Maybe try to fit in another Demi in the 1st list, also run lore of life, and use more warmachines. Drop warrior priest and Luminarc.

**japehlio**

@BigRed, I was toying between Demis and Greatswords, only problem with the greatswords is that they really need to be 30+ strong to be effective, whereas Demis do it with 3-4.

@Keyser, id like to take another warmachine, and to that note I could drop the Luminark, its really only there for the extra dispel (and the bound cannon vs Daemons/Undead) and doesnt add that much else really.

To fit in a second demi, what about dropping the level 2 on beast dude (he only needs one spell after all) and the Skavenhelm off the priest (he really needs to stay, the buff spells really help the knights out) and 10 points somewhere else to fit it in?

As to a second warmachine, another cannon, or Blaster? Im loathe to take one without an Engineer though...

**Arbiter**

For the first list why not take an actual knight list? like

Lvl4 of life/horse/fencer's blade/cloak of ultric/channeling staff-318

Grandmaster with /shield/SoS-174

Lvl2 of beasts/horse/disspell-137

Warrior priest/horse/obsidian lodestone/-122

Captain/horse/AoD/shield/bsb-137

knights/30/IC/lances shields/FC-780

Knights/10/musician-230

knights/10/musician-230

spearmen/10-50

comes to 1998 and i have had mixed results but had always been fun!