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Cincinnati, Ohio

Does anyone else just hate how long and ridiculous the bases for the new Imperial Knights are?

I can't stand it.

I'm probably going to cut myself some ciricular ones, but was just curious to get some input from the Dakka community on that.

Do any of you also hate the base for the Knight? Not that I care that much, as I probably just wont play with someone that disallows it, but how much of a problem would you have in-game with the knight being on a circular base as opposed to that oblong monstrosity?

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It's the base... who cares?

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I'm getting one to base my Canis Wolfborn.
   
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It changes the footprint of the model.

   
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McKenzie, TN

What's wrong with the base? I think it gives some nice room for a bit of basing work and elaboration of the model.

Ironically the most important part of the model is probably the base for gaming purposes. Changing the base changes how many models can get into b2b, whether you have to go through difficult terrain, and whether you get hit by blasts. Are you planning to make the base smaller or larger? Because honestly you are not the only person who decides whether they will play someone and a smaller base on the IK screams modeling for advantage.
   
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Cincinnati, Ohio

 ansacs wrote:
What's wrong with the base? I think it gives some nice room for a bit of basing work and elaboration of the model.

Ironically the most important part of the model is probably the base for gaming purposes. Changing the base changes how many models can get into b2b, whether you have to go through difficult terrain, and whether you get hit by blasts. Are you planning to make the base smaller or larger? Because honestly you are not the only person who decides whether they will play someone and a smaller base on the IK screams modeling for advantage.


I'm honestly just going to turn the oblong base into a circle. "Gaming Purposes" is the reason I asked, honestly, because for a model like this, I don't see having a larger base really positively affecting it. He certainly doesn't really benefit from the larger base, IMO.

I just hate the shape of it, mostly. Hah. It's just goofy.

 
   
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 cincydooley wrote:
 ansacs wrote:
What's wrong with the base? I think it gives some nice room for a bit of basing work and elaboration of the model.

Ironically the most important part of the model is probably the base for gaming purposes. Changing the base changes how many models can get into b2b, whether you have to go through difficult terrain, and whether you get hit by blasts. Are you planning to make the base smaller or larger? Because honestly you are not the only person who decides whether they will play someone and a smaller base on the IK screams modeling for advantage.


I'm honestly just going to turn the oblong base into a circle. "Gaming Purposes" is the reason I asked, honestly, because for a model like this, I don't see having a larger base really positively affecting it. He certainly doesn't really benefit from the larger base, IMO.

I just hate the shape of it, mostly. Hah. It's just goofy.


Not really sure what the problem is. The base shouldn't effect the aesthetics of the model at all, it's just the amount of terrain he's standing on. Theoretically the base should merge perfectly with the gaming/display board, so it shouldn't "exist" as something to look at. In reality, it's just the amount of space you have to flock and build in your chosen army's basing style. The difference between basing 100 square inches of swamp base terrain or whatever and 75, or the "shape" of said base, matters exactly zero "aesthetically"
   
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Cincinnati, Ohio

I'd argue that the oblong shape most certainly affects the aesthetic, but to each his own.

I'm a bit surprised I'm the only person that seems to hate the shape.

 
   
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West Midlands (UK)

I think it's better than a round one.

That way, opposing models in cc can get closer to the actual Knight mini (from all directions), making it look like a genuine melee.

I really hate the larger round bases, on many of the larger Nids for example, that end up leaving fighters in a cc standing "many yards" apart, visually.

   
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 Zweischneid wrote:
I think it's better than a round one.

That way, opposing models in cc can get closer to the actual Knight mini (from all directions), making it look like a genuine melee.

I really hate the larger round bases, on many of the larger Nids for example, that end up leaving fighters in a cc standing "many yards" apart, visually.



"Many of the larger Nids" so the 2 Hierodule variants? The other 9 are on ovals.

 
   
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I don't see what's ring with the base. It looks like its good for some base work.

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West Midlands (UK)

 Zande4 wrote:
 Zweischneid wrote:
I think it's better than a round one.

That way, opposing models in cc can get closer to the actual Knight mini (from all directions), making it look like a genuine melee.

I really hate the larger round bases, on many of the larger Nids for example, that end up leaving fighters in a cc standing "many yards" apart, visually.



"Many of the larger Nids" so the 2 Hierodule variants? The other 9 are on ovals.


Not oval enough.

Also Thunderwolves, etc.. as been pointed out. Stuff like that. I don't have a particular model in mind. But there are a few that don't "fill" their base properly, creating odd "spacings" in cc.

Not a big deal. I often put smaller bases simply on-top of the larger ones, if there is room, to get a better effect. But every so often you meet some TFG who is overtly picky about "base-to-base" and doesn't like overlaps, etc., In those cases, oval is better.

   
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Cincinnati, Ohio

I think if thunderwolves came out today they'd be on 50mm's instead of 60s.

Personally, I like having plenty of room to model underneath my models, and I like, for the most part, the base to encompass the whole footprint of the model if you were to look at it top down. That's one of my biggest issues with the Knight base.

 
   
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I love basing models it gives them a personal touch, i plan to have mine crushing a Wraith lord under foot

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McKenzie, TN

I actually prefer the oval bases as they conform with the model better. I can however understand that some may have different preferences though.

I would make some sort of marking on the larger base and if a question happens use the markers to resolve it. ie certain rocks and barrels denote the oval base shape and if the opponent wants they can put the models in melee on the base lip.

Otherwise a larger base shouldn't hurt anything and most players will understand that it doesn't benefit the knight any significant amount and actually makes him easier to hit and slow down. (it also allows more models in b2b and therefore makes the stomps do less damage)
   
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Schrott

I was surpised at the base. I first thought it was a normal flyer base then found its elongated and wider relative to a flyer base. Suppose I could always carve one from plasticard.

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