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Below is what I have come up with so far which through playtesting works very well.

Just wanting some thoughts from people who DONT play Dark Eldar about what you think you would be more worried about (although the regular posters on DE / Eldar threads are more than welcome).

Only played 1 game with the list so far and only lost because I had nothing left to kill 2 land raiders with (had Eldar allies in that game as well). Played againts a Dark Angels Dakka Banner thingy!

The list is a bit of a mixture of Venom spam and AP2 & AP3 weapons. Mostly wracks for T4 and FNP off the bat but Liquifiers tend to make a mess of Bike Lists or anything with dumb cover saves, plus Wracks tend to work rather well in CC especially with the upgrades.

Clearly being Dark Eldar I have No Anti Air at all but oh well.

One concern I do have is that I don't have enough bodies and too many AV10 Transports, Was thinking of taking 10 man squads and putting them in Raiders but not sure about that (a lot more survivable but I lost a lot of poison shots but do gain some AP2 Dissie shots which are good).

Notes:

> Liquifiers for those who dont know are AP D6, S4 Templates (so ignores cover and can be AP 1. 2 or 3 which wreaks a lot of armies),
> Wracks and the Haemo have poison CC weapons so enemy MC's are a none issue (especially with 108 Splinter Cannon shots).
> 18x Lances I think should be more than enough!

Feedback appreciated!



HQ
Haemonculus - Liquifier, Agoniser

Elites
3x Trueborn - 3x Blasters
3x Trueborn - 3x Blasters
3x Trueborn - 3x Blasters

Troops
4x Wracks (HQ Attached)
5x Wracks - 1x Liquifier Gun, 1x Acothyst (Agoniser)
5x Wracks - 1x Liquifier Gun, 1x Acothyst (Agoniser)
5x Wracks - 1x Liquifier Gun, 1x Acothyst (Agoniser)
5x Wracks - 1x Liquifier Gun, 1x Acothyst (Agoniser)
5x Wracks - 1x Liquifier Gun, 1x Acothyst (Agoniser)

Heavy Support
3x Ravager - FF, 3x Dark Lance

Transports
9x Venom - 2x Splinter Cannon

The first change I would recommend would be to drop all the agonisers for venom blades. It will wind up saving you over 100 points and venom blades statistically do more wounds per points in most situations.
I would also take 10 man wrack squads with 2 liquifiers in raiders. The squads will hit harder in combat, have double the liquifiers, and the raiders will add some more anti-tank power or anti-MEQ depending on your preference. I would run a list like this:

HQ
Haemonculus - Liquifier, venom blade

Elites
3x Trueborn - 3x Blasters
3x Trueborn - 3x Blasters
3x Trueborn - 3x Blasters

Troops
10x Wracks - 2x Liquifier Guns
10x Wracks - 2x Liquifier Guns
10x Wracks - 2x Liquifier Guns
10x Wracks - 2x Liquifier Guns

Heavy Support
3x Ravager - FF, 3x Dark Lance

Transports
3x Venom - 2x Splinter Cannon
4 Raiders - Dark Lance, Enhanced sails

I'll do the 10 man squads. Might drop some ravagers for razorwings.

I personally run a kabal list over coven but ill rate it based on the non coven parts. I would say 2 ravangers and a razor wing would be better. Gives you some anti air. Also I know venom spam is the thing but I love raiders. I wouldn't put sails since you can't do anything when you do the sails.

I usually flat out to one side of opponents army to focus on one side so the sails could be useful.

I don't really rate venoms at all, yeah loads of shots but not too great except against mc.

Prefer dissie raiders.

Shingen wrote:
I usually flat out to one side of opponents army to focus on one side so the sails could be useful.

I don't really rate venoms at all, yeah loads of shots but not too great except against mc.

Prefer dissie raiders.

This is completely wrong. Venom Spam with sufficient blasters and beast pack support does well against almost any army. It suffers against Wave Serpent Spam and Massed flyers (mainly necron) and thats about it.

Also, Dissie raiders are terrible.

I know you said you wanted advice from non-DE players, but I figured since I was already posting the above counter point, I would chime in. I have tried getting wracks with liquifiers to work in 6th and the results have been constantly underwhelming. I now field wracks in just 3 man squads and leave the heavy lifting to beast-packs. The issue is that Liquifiers are anti infantry and with 9 venoms, you've got that covered. I would recommend a decent sized beast pack and maybe a squad or 2 of 5 wyches with haywire grenades.

I would have to echo the recommendation of Freytag93 by switching out to Raiders and 10-man squads. If anything I'd play test the setup a bit to see if a 50/50 split of Venoms and Raiders would be better since Venoms dish out so much firepower. In addition, I would look to replace 1 ravager with a Razorwing flyer to just have some anti-flyer support.

Beyond all of that, it looks like a solid list. I'd be curious to see how it runs.

Wracks have always worked well for me. They are very survivable and can be pretty mean in combat.

Normally I run trueborn with them but I am trying to avoid that if possible. Small squads, t3 and crappy saves keep losing me games even when I almost table opponents because of killpoints.

Ill have another think.

Good suggestions so far keep them coming.

Oh and with regards to the beastpack, yes they are fantastic and I do use them in my 1850 list but I was planning on ditching them for the moment.

Okay had a think and I'm going to run this.

Haemo, agoniser and liquifier
5x5 wracks, liquifier, venom 2 cannons
4x wracks, venom 2 cannons and trophies
2x5 scourges, 2x dark lance or blasters
10x reavers, 3x blaster, 3x caltrops
2x razorwings with splinter cannons and lances

Blasters or lances on the Scourges?

Should be a fun list, dunno if it will work though...!