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Hello there,

I am currently starting to take up 40k again and have decided I am going to turn to chaos. It seems to be just my luck that a new attack force has just came out and I want to build a list around the units i get from this box.

1 Terminator Lord
5 Terminators
10 Chaos Space Marines
1 Rhino
5 Raptors
Mauler/Forgefiend


The theme of my army is going to be Tzeentch mixed with Slaanesh for a fast and hard hitting army.

I have wrote up a few lists with alternate options to see what is likely to run most efficiently.

Chaos Lord
Terminator armour, chainfist, MoT and a combi-melta

5 Terminators
reaper autocannon, 3 combi-meltas, chain fist, 2 power fists
champ with combi-melta

10 Chaos Space Marines with a Rhino
melta gun x 2, champ with combi-melta

10 Chaos Space Marines with rhino
melta gun x 2, champ

Hellbrute
reaper autocannon


Maulerfiend

OR

Chaos Lord
Terminator armour, chainfist, MoT and a combi-melta


5 Terminators
reaper autocannon, 3 combi-meltas, chain fist, 2 power fists

10 Chaos Space Marines with rhino
melta gun x 2, combi-melta

10 cults

heldrake
baleflamer

Forgefiend
3 ecto plasma cannons


with list one my plan is 2 drive a rhino down each side, one with the helbrute and one with the mauler forcing my opponent to pick one side to try eliminate while the unharmed side can do some damage and then the terminators to deepstrike behind the biggest threat and shoot it down and charge next turn if it doesnt fall.

with list 2, the terminator role is the same, but while the rhino goes down one side (stopping behind cover whenever it can) while the 10 cults sit behind cover and hold my primary objective (they are just there to make my 2nd troop)

The forgefiend will provide the heavy fire power and hopefully kill a unit or force it off in turn one and then the heldrake comes in and does its stuff.


The main things I would like help on is with the fiend. Which one is better and more efficient? and is there any tweaks i could make to this to make it more efficient in its self?

Also, is there any other tactics for either list that would prove more effective?