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Hello would like feedback on a 2 mock lists ive prepared.

A)
overlord : War-scythe - Mss- S weave - Phase shifter
1x tremtek
10 warriors
10 warriors
1 night scythe
2x A barges

B)
overlord : War-scythe - Mss- S weave - Phase shifter
1x depair-tek
5x deathmarks
10 warriors
10 warriors
1 night scythe
1x A barge

Very similar list with a couple of changes. Which one gets your vote. If you have any other suggestions on listsplease comment

Why is the Tremor-tek in the first list? What is it doing?
Where is your Overlord going in either list? If just with Warriors, seems like a waste. I'd be tempted to give him a Command Barge.
Is the Death & Despair squad going in the Nightscythe? (if not, they should be).

Overlord with a squad and trem tek in the other

Death and despair in the night scythe


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Sorry I should mention im vs a lot ofchaos cultists so trem tek is there for that.

If lots of Cultists, then the double Annihilation Barge list would be better.
I'd also consider Tomb Blades with Beamers (and Scopes, if points allow) to maximize your blast weapons, but I don't know if you'd have access to them.

Biggest issue I see is the Phase Shifter AND Semp. Weave on both lists. Is your meta really that Hard hitting? Generally one or the other is enough, or use Zahndrekh. True he doesn't have a Warscythe, but he more than makes up for it.

List A)
Nothing Wrong with this list if you're running the Nightscythe Empty. I'd suggest dropping 1 A Barge and bulking out both Warrior Squads. If you want the 2 A Barges, then put 5 Warriors in the NS, and bulk out the squad on the ground to 15. With the OL and the Tremortek, you'll have a pretty solid ground unit for your opponent to deal with at this points level. More so if you switch out the Phase Shifter for an Orb.

List B)
Decent, well rounded list. Normally Im not a fan of the Death-tek squad, but at this points level, it's going to do some damage without too much fear of being lost. Only thing I'd recommend here is dropping the Phase Shifter and upgrading one squad of Warriors to Immortals.

Ok thinking now to do this

overlord : War-scythe - Mss - S weave - res orb.
160

1x depair-tek
30

5x deathmarks
95

5 immortals
85

15 warriors
195

1 night scythe
100

1x A barge
90

Totals 755 need to trim 5 points still. Maybe the warscythe..

Yeah, give him a Gauntlet of Fire and you should be fine (you don't want that blob getting into combat, after all, so close combat gear isn't really going to be of as much use. Defensive stuff would be best in this case).

Wondering where my immortals will go if. I have the death n despair in the scythe.

You don't have much choice.
Foot slog 'em, unless you want to drop the A.Barge and a Warrior for another N.Scythe.
(tip: don't do that)

Maybe the death n despair could be dropped freeing up 125 points ?

Dropping the D&D squad only to give the Immortals their Nightscythe doesn't seem wise. You'll have no heavy hitters in your list if you do.
Why not simply pick up the Immortals in the NS after you drop off the D&D squad?

Im not thinking along the lines of transport its more to free up space to fill the immortals to a bigger squad. 5 doesnt seem to take advantage of necrons reanimation as well as a big 10 man team

Well, I'm just saying: a 10 man Immortal squad and a unit of 15 Warriors is hardly an intimidating list, even with two Tesla Destructors...

10 Immortals and 15 Warriors is a VERY intimidating list even without the support of the Tesla Destructors. Your opponent just wont see it coming like he will with the obvious DnD unit.

This is what I run on 750 pts.
OL - Scythe/Orb/Weave/Phaeron
18 Warriors
10 Immortals (Gauss)
5 Wraiths

There are 5 pts left over so you could easily swap out the Wraiths for 2 A.Barges if you like them that much, or even Drop a Warrior for a Nightscythe if you want. I tried running the Nightscythe on this low of points, and the unit off the board really makes all the difference in this low of points. I ended up just running the NS empty, then dropping it altogether since you're essentially wasting 100pts for 1 maybe 2 shots for the entire game. You might have a different experience in your games if you try it, but that's how it ended up going for me.

You're on the right track though. The larger the units, the more you're going to be able to make use of RP. It's one of the main reasons Im against the 5 man DnD squads in the first place, you need to make sure they do the damage before your opponent just shrugs, spends a turn shooting them, then watches them disappear. At these low point games, they're great, because they will do considerable damage, then force your opponent to spend the shots on them instead of something else. In higher pt games (1.5k+), they're just not as effective unless you're fortunate enough to keep them around for another turn.

... but D&D squads, like the anti-vehicle alpha striking Storm-Court, are meant to be kamikaze squads.
They drop in, make something super dead, mission accomplished.
They're not meant to have to worry about RP. (it helps to think of them as disposable surgical scalpels)
If they DO manage to survive an additional round and happen to kill something else, well that's just gravy.

 skoffs wrote:
... but D&D squads, like the anti-vehicle alpha striking Storm-Court, are meant to be kamikaze squads.

Im AWARE of this, and have used them as such. It's the return on the investment that became clear after a while, that I haven't found worth it. 5 DM's, DTek, and a NS comes to 225 pts not including the points for the OLord to give you access to the DTek. I've not had very many games where they have made that 225pts back, or even the 125 pts if you don't include the NS. Anything that WAS worth hitting, my opponents quickly figured out to keep that stuff bubble wrapped, or off the board. If I ended up going first, that was even LESS targets for them to choose from.

If you like them, then great. Keep using them. Much like A Barges, they are not an auto-take in my book, and not having them doesn't make the Necrons any less intimidating. At this point level, they're really good because they can do some serious damage. Removing 100-200 pts from an opponents 750 is HUGE. Removing 100-200 pts from an opponents 2000 pt list isn't going to have much of an impact on the game.

Ok ihave a final list but also wanted to throw another idea out there.
Final list is

1 overlord
-gauntlet of fire
-res orb
-s weave
-mss

1 despair tek

5 deathmarks

15 warriors
5 immortals with night scythe
1 aa barge

My other idea is :

DESTROYER lord
-weave
-mss
-res orb

15 warriors
10 immortals w/ scythe

1 aa barge

Thought having the d lord with the 15 guys that get to re reroll thise 1s with preferred enemy.and having those extra immortals will keep them alive and on objectives.

Thoughts on this idea.?

First list is better, though give the Deathmarks the Nightscythe, not the Immortals.

First list is better, though give the Deathmarks the Nightscythe, not the Immortals.

yeh that was a typo. scythe for the deathmarks 100% . so you dislike the d lord list?

I don't necessarily dislike it, it's just that in this case the other list seems better (able to handle more things).

I'll agree that List A is the better of the 2 lists. I'd put the Warscythe back on and take off the MSS. In a Blob that big, you're not going to be able to use them on the turn you get charged, which is when you're going to really want to use them to prevent yourself from being swept. After that, they'll be good, but it probably won't win you the game since you'll most likely be tied up in combat for the rest of the game at this point. The Warscythe will at least get you some kills. Don't know what you're running on the Immortals, but this would be one of the times that I'd probably go Tesla>Gauss then you can keep them at range. Anything with Deep Strike, particularly Drop Pods, that unit will be toast and give up First Blood unless they go after the ABarge.

List B is VERY well thought out, and would be a lot of fun to play, and pretty original. Real 'Outside the box' thinking! It will be able to handle anything just as well as the first list. Im not a fan of DLords in general and think they should only be taken with Flayed Ones, but you've got so many tactical options with this 2nd list. The Warriors are going to take the brunt of all the Damage, but with the Orb in there they can really take it. If your opponent manages to get them below 10 models, which will happen in quite a few games, the DLord is fast enough to jump ship and join the Immortal squad giving them the Orb and Pref. Enemy. It's a really good 'Anvil' tactic in additional to be able to dish it.

If the enemy has managed to get close enough to be a threat, and hasn't died from the huge amount of damage it's going to be taking, then the DLord can jump out and Solo charge. The MSS will really shine here, his T6 that is pretty much lost while with either of the units becomes valid, and any characters will have to accept the challenge and reduce the number of attacks on the DLord, or accept that his character with anything that can actually do something to the DLord will have to sit it out. TIP: IF you do charge, there will be more opportunities to use the MSS against a line troop, then issue the challenge. This will make that one model potentially hit his own unit, while your beating on his character. If it's Warlord against Warlord, then use the MSS after issuing the challenge.

HONESTLY, I'd go with List B. None of your opponents will be expecting it and you won't get those 'Oh a Despairtek unit, what a shock /sarcasm off' looks. They might even think that you're running an underpowered list and have you up on the ropes until they actually try to kill something.

Im glad you see my thinking Akar. Im defo swayed more to. The d lord list.

I may get crucified for this list.. but this is something I would consider

Its pretty close to one of your older lists

130 overlord ws mss sw
30 depair tek
95 5 deathmarks
100 scythe
104 8 warriors
104 8 warriors
90 A barge
90 A barge

pretty basic HQ... 2 small troops
deathmarks in the nightscythe
2 A barges will be extremely hard to take down in a 750 game

Thats not a bad list has both of what iwanted in the earlier lists (deathmarks AND 2x barges)

Decisions decisions

I figured it was a good balance between your 2 earlier choices

Im gona run with the d lord list for now butif it doesnt work out ill defo try your list kontheory