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Why does vector strike not cause a grounding test? Its arguably a more violent action then getting shot.
Is this an oversight or am I not seeing the logic behind this?
   
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Re-read the part about Grounding tests. It's quite clear, as written, that a vector strike doesn't fit the criteria to cause one
   
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 B0B MaRlEy wrote:
Re-read the part about Grounding tests. It's quite clear, as written, that a vector strike doesn't fit the criteria to cause one


right, my question is why not?
e.g. If a heldrake slams into an FMC and lands 2 vector strikes - wouldnt that potentially knock the FMC out of the air?
Sorry if I posted this in the wrong forum, Im just trying to make sense of how this wouldnt have the potential to ground a flyer/FMC.
   
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Your reasoning makes sense, but the rules do not have to.

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My guess is it's because Vector Strikes are automatic hits, and they didn't want something automatic to cause Grounding checks.
   
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For the sake of fun, you could make a house rule that they both make a grounding test since I'd like to think of them as grappling with each other in mid-air then both plummeting to the ground.

However that would be outside the scope of "You Make Da Call".

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Zimko wrote:
For the sake of fun, you could make a house rule that they both make a grounding test since I'd like to think of them as grappling with each other in mid-air then both plummeting to the ground.

However that would be outside the scope of "You Make Da Call".

I think that would be a fun rule. I think the rule should apply to flying vehicles. I can imagine a Crone Vector striking a Vendetta, they both fall to the ground take additional wounds, and then the Crone moves to assault it. It would really forge the narrative for that game.

Or a Demon Prince vector strikes a Doom Scythe and fails to wound it, but it crashes to the ground and explodes.

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The main reason is that only a Shooting attack that hits forces grounding checks.

The other reasons include but are not limited to:

Flyers dont ever take grounding checks.
They dont want an attack that auto-hits forcing grounding checks.
Would give vehicles that can vector strike an even more overwhelming advantage over FMC's.

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Eihnlazer wrote:

Would give vehicles that can vector strike an even more overwhelming advantage over FMC's.
You mean all 1 of them?
   
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sand.zzz wrote:
 B0B MaRlEy wrote:
Re-read the part about Grounding tests. It's quite clear, as written, that a vector strike doesn't fit the criteria to cause one


right, my question is why not?
e.g. If a heldrake slams into an FMC and lands 2 vector strikes - wouldnt that potentially knock the FMC out of the air?
Sorry if I posted this in the wrong forum, Im just trying to make sense of how this wouldnt have the potential to ground a flyer/FMC.


Because RaW are clear, you are asking why RaI?

I would argue that when flying creatures "savage" others in the air, they don't just chuck them at the ground (grounding test). They rip them apart in the air before flying off to find another target. If they kill the target it would "fall to the ground". If it's still alive though, i can easily see it flying away wounded. None of this was done below 20 000 feet

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ah high altitude vector strike. so the fight happens at 20,000 feet - and the unit hit plummets 10k feet before recovering. thank you, I am at peace with this rule now.
   
 
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