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Hi I will be play game against space wolfs. My opponent has army something like this:

Njal Stormcaller
3 units grey hunters
2 units long fangs [one with lascannons,one with plasma cannons]
land raider
Fenrisian Wolfs a lot
Terminators

And could you tell me that my csm list is enough strong


Chaos Lord [MoN, VotLW, Sigil of Corruption,Power fist , Lightning claw, Blight grenades]155

Be'lakor 350

6x Plague Marines [VotLW,2xPlasma gun] 180
6x Plague Marines [VotLW,2xPlasma gun] 180

Heldrake 170
Heldrake 170
Heldrake 170

3x Obliterators [MoN,VotLW] 237
3x Obliterators [MoN,VotLW] 237

Long fangs-heldrakes, can use obliterators
Terminators-be'lakor/obliterators
land raider-be'lakor/obliterators
wolfs-heldrakes
grey hunters-heldrakes

You can see how much heldrakes come up in this list of counters. You may want to invest in a comms relay to help get them on the board turn 2.
Your plague marines will want to just stay alive. Every turn they don't lose more than a guy is a good turn. You might want to invest in rhinos to help them sustain one or two extra rounds of shooting before they themselves get shot at. They will protect you for a time from the plasma cannons. Watch out for those lascannons though.

Maybe hide your force behind your ADL until the drakes come in and roast the longfangs, then move on up, using be'lakor and the oblits to terminate his land raider death star. Be'lakor will be very safe with his shrouded for a 2+ cover, the rhinos can pop smoke for a 2+ cover, and your oblits will laugh off much of the longfangs AP2 attacks with a 4+ cover save. As soon as the heldrakes come in, roast up the longfangs and send your PMs to grab the objectives late game.

Never take obliterators in two groups of 3. Take 3 groups of 2 because:
-They will take a LD test if one goes down no matter what. Better to have 1 oblit running than 2.
-You will be able to select a greater variety of weapons to fire and targets to select
-You can spread out 3 squads very far. Your opponent will have great difficulty killing 3 squads of oblits spread out across the entire board.