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This weekend, there is a 1500pt 'anything goes' kind of tournament at my local hobby store and I was thinking about taking a Tau army without Riptide spam and not too many Crisis Suits, I mainly want a Firewarrior gunline with things like Cadre Fireblades and Ethereals to boost the Firewarrior firepower,
Here is the list I am thinking of running; please help.
You said you wanted an ethereal but dont have one in your list..
you said you wanted to spam riptides but you only have 1?
I would drop the hammerheads.. Ive played lots and they never seem to make their points back,
also the longstike gives the hammerhead blacksunfilter so you dont have to pay for it again
sniper drones are fun but I wouldnt take them in a competitive list, especially at minimum squad size
also your pathfinders will be an easy first blood
I'm actually kind of fond of Sniper Drones, they always make their point back for me. Hammerheads are good for AV14 defense which Tau seriously lack. I like it.
If you want a firewarrior gunline, then an ethereal is a MUCH better option. 12 inch ld 10 bubble? Saved my ass MANY times. You can put him on the quadgun and hide him in your missile suit squad.
Also, how far forward do you plan on playing your Riptide? More than likely, that fusion blaster won't be effecively used. Consider a tlsms for the range and number of shots.
I was under the impression that broadsides were a heavy slot in the Tau FOC? If so the list is illegal.
Also do you really need EWO and Velocity Trackers on the Commander? I don't think his 4 missle shots are going to add much to what the Riptide can intercept. Maybe use these points to get EWO on the Broadsides.
2 XV88 Broadside battlesuits with High yield missile pods, Smart missile system, velocity trackers - 170 pts
Sniper Drone Team - 58 pts
Fortifications:
Aegis Defense line with quad gun- 100 pts
Total - 1349 points
Now I just need to find something to fill 151 points, maybe some more Sniper Drones in the unit, fill out the Fire Warriors? Maybe a devilfish for the Pathfinders?
Also, do the snpier drones use the Firesight Marksman's bs? or do they stay at bs 2?
Thanks in advance.
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a nice change from mark'o's, which your list does not need, or buffmander's. i like him.
Ethereal with 2 Missile Drones - 50 pts
Can an ethereal take drones?! Never noticed it if so. 1 thing defo wrong is the ethereal with drones would be 74 points. Also he cannot have a drone controller so those points are better spent elsewhere.
Troops: 306 points
12 fire warriors - 108 pts
11 fire warriors - 99 pts
11 fire warriors - 99 pts
Reasonable firebase, I would rather see these split down further, say 5 units of 6 men. This is better for you for 2 reasons. 1) more scoring units and 2) you want them to die if in CC. what I mean is if you are charged you want your unit to die in the enemies turn, because if they die outright you can then shoot the enemy in your turn. If your squad survives and remains in combat, you cannot shoot him and he’ll then finish the squad off in your turn allowing him to charge again in his. Something to seriously consider.
Elites: 190 points
XV104 Riptide battlesuit with ion accelerato, early warning override - 190 pts
Decent enough. if running him solo i would get stims on him for extra survivability.
for me, hammers work in this list because bar the riptide you are really lacking anti tank punch.
2 XV88 Broadside battlesuits with High yield missile pods, Smart missile system, velocity trackers - 170 pts
these guys are the bomb and really don't need velocity trackers, the points spent on them is nearly 70% of the 3rd broadside, which is far better.
Sniper Drone Team - 58 pts
if you like them, keep them. but i would either take a second hammerhead or broadside unit.
Fortifications:
Aegis Defense line with quad gun- 100 pts
keep the ADL, drop the quad gun, again its nearly the cost of a broadside. better.
Now I just need to find something to fill 151 points, maybe some more Sniper Drones in the unit, fill out the Fire Warriors? Maybe a devilfish for the Pathfinders?
Also, do the snpier drones use the Firesight Marksman's bs? or do they stay at bs 2?
Thanks in advance.
broadsides mate, or go all out with a massive sniper drone unit.
Is this list based on what you have? are you limited or is anything an option?
happy to help write some options for you either on here or via PM if you want mate.
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WHFB-Ogres, WoC, Lizardmen, Tomb Kings, Tzeentch Daemons, OnG
a nice change from mark'o's, which your list does not need, or buffmander's. i like him
Thanks.
Ethereal with 2 Missile Drones - 50 pts
Can an ethereal take drones?! Never noticed it if so. 1 thing defo wrong is the ethereal with drones would be 74 points. Also he cannot have a drone controller so those points are better spent elsewhere.
Ethereals can take 2 drones from the drone list, but I think I'll just take out the drones from him entirely.
Reasonable firebase, I would rather see these split down further, say 5 units of 6 men. This is better for you for 2 reasons. 1) more scoring units and 2) you want them to die if in CC. what I mean is if you are charged you want your unit to die in the enemies turn, because if they die outright you can then shoot the enemy in your turn. If your squad survives and remains in combat, you cannot shoot him and he’ll then finish the squad off in your turn allowing him to charge again in his. Something to seriously consider.
I like this idea a lot, it also means that I can split fire if I can kill a unit with just 1 round of shooting from a unit of 6.
Elites: 190 points
XV104 Riptide battlesuit with ion accelerato, early warning override - 190 pts
Decent enough. if running him solo i would get stims on him for extra survivability.
Will do.
2 XV88 Broadside battlesuits with High yield missile pods, Smart missile system, velocity trackers - 170 pts
these guys are the bomb and really don't need velocity trackers, the points spent on them is nearly 70% of the 3rd broadside, which is far better.
Ok thanks.
Sniper Drone Team - 58 pts
if you like them, keep them. but i would either take a second hammerhead or broadside unit.
These guys are pretty much the only thing I own for Tau atm bar the commander and I think a large unit of them filled out would be really handy with bs 5 snipers.
Fortifications:
Aegis Defense line with quad gun- 100 pts
keep the ADL, drop the quad gun, again its nearly the cost of a broadside. better.
Broadsides, Broadsides and more Broadsides, right?
3 XV88 Broadside battlesuits with High yield missile pods, Smart missile system, velocity trackers and missile drones - 195 pts
Sniper Drone Team with 2 more marksmen and 6 more drones.- 174 pts
Fortifications:
Aegis Defense line - 50 pts
Total - 1505 points
I think that's it, although, when looking through my codex I cannot find out where the points costs are for the supporting systems so the adding up is most likely very wrong, please either tell me where to find it/how much this actually costs.
3 XV88 Broadside battlesuits with High yield missile pods, Smart missile system, velocity trackers and missile drones - 195 pts
That unit does not need velocity trackers mate, trust me, 8 twinlinked shots per broadside is plenty. Go with HYMS and SMS on all with early warning override. Means they can shoot enemy flyers when they come on in the enemies turn. Cheaper, and better than skyfire for broadsides. The unit this way with 6 missile drones is 282.
Sniper Drone Team with 2 more marksmen and 6 more drones.- 174 pts
Like it. Go big or go home.
Fortifications:
Aegis Defense line - 50 pts
Total - 1505 points
I make the list 1537 points.
Choices are drop the stims on the riptide (rather not IMHO) or trim some gear off the hammerhead.
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Armies of Mixer
WHFB-Ogres, WoC, Lizardmen, Tomb Kings, Tzeentch Daemons, OnG
Drop the bonding knifes, you need the points elsewhere. Saves 30 points.
Sure thing.
This guy is 225 as he stands. Also I would take twin-linked fusion as his secondary weapon system for some more anti-tank.
Alrighty.
That unit does not need velocity trackers mate, trust me, 8 twinlinked shots per broadside is plenty. Go with HYMS and SMS on all with early warning override. Means they can shoot enemy flyers when they come on in the enemies turn. Cheaper, and better than skyfire for broadsides. The unit this way with 6 missile drones is 282.
Sure thing, I didn't think about EWO over VT.
Like it. Go big or go home.
Hell yeah.
I make the list 1537 points.
Do you know where in the Codex it actually states the point costs for all the supporting systems? I can't seem to find it.
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