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Hi Peeps!
After attending the 1st tournament,I'm ready to get my game on for the 2nd on 5 of April! My serpent spam list won 2nd place on the 1st tournament. the Tournament also gives a lot of restritions to avoid cheese games.
So here are the 2 list that I made for the 2nd tournament,please give comment and critics for the list thanks!

So the restrictions are:
No unit wound more than 3
No 2+ armor saves
No vehicle with the total sum of AV more than 34
No flyer
No Artifact
No reserve units (that means no drop pod too)
No Deep strikes
No Fortifications
No special character

Rules about FOC:
1 HQ
2 Troops
you can only take 1 from Elite, fast attack, Heavy support (pick only 1)
and you can ONLY take 1 HQ and 2 Troops at maximum

If you have the option to take flying monsterous creature, you can only have them in glide mode and not swooping

The board which I will be playing is 4x2 or the size of 2 Realm of battle tile board.

1st List,Eldar Jetbikes
HQ:
Autarch (103)
Jetbike,Scorpion Chainsword,Fusion gun,Banshee Mask

Troops
5 man Dire Avengers (200)
Wave Serpent,TL Scatter Laser,Holo Fields

3 man Windrider Jetbikes (51)

Heavy Support
2 War Walkers (140)
4 Scatter Lasers

Total 494


So the tactic behind the list is,the Autarch with the jetbikes,strikes at enemy vehicle cause the lowest AV I'll face with their rear ends are AV10,their hammer of wrath will surely work magics and the Autarch fusion gun.
While the Wave Serpent and War Walker provide cover for the Autarch and jetbikes.

2nd List,Serpent Spam

HQ:
Autarch (73)
Scorpion Chainsword

Troops
6 man Dire Avengers (213)
Wave Serpent,TL Scatter Laser,Holo Fields

6 man Dire Avengers (213)
Wave Serpent,TL Scatter Laser,Holo Fields

Total 499


for the 2nd list,I choose Autarch because more wounds and a fair amount of armor save.On the 1st tournament I choose a Spiritseer, the Spiritseer doesnt really do any good with that 4+ invul save and on one game he got Perils of the warp while casting and almost cost me the game againts Blood angels.

In the 500 point list I'd pull a DA from each squad to beef up the autarch. Jump pack and maybe a better gun.

Man, heavy restrictions. And for the second list take out a dire avenger and give the Autarch a fusion gun.

That seems like a really small board to play on to me, even in a small points value game like this!

I like the first list better, it seems more well-rounded because of the variety of units. Although you won't have to worry about high-AV vehicles because of the rules restrictions, I think the extra durability and maneuverability of the jetbikes will be very useful regardless.

Windriders are quite maneuverable although I think the War Walkers are going to do more.

I would take first list, with some changes,

1) drop banshee mask
2) buy laser lance

Now your autarch gets +1A and for the first turn of CC gets his attacks at S6 Ap3.

Ya, the Autarch is already going to strike first most of the time, so the Banshee mask is not necessary and the laser lance does add some significant bonuses to CC.

OK cool,According to you guys,which one of these list is tournament level?