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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/18 00:38:35
Subject: IG vs castle tau
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Been Around the Block
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I have a friend who likes to play castle tau with a aegis defense line, at the moment my plan is to just use mass bodies of conscripts and guardsmen to over run his position under supporting fire of a hydra, I will be shocked if he doesn't bring his hammerheads, and artillery.
At the moment the plan is to use the conscripts to cover the advance then next wave when they break. But otherwise go ork hoard style on him with a few big guns to counter his bigger guys.
Any thoughts for this 1500 game, for both sides, he is just going to sit in his castle with his buff commander, riptides and hammerheads.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/18 01:02:46
Subject: IG vs castle tau
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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IG has the best barrage in the game. A Manticore would send some pretty serious fire that ignores the Aegis and threatens vehicles and infantry.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/18 01:28:42
Subject: Re:IG vs castle tau
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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Castles are great targets for artillery barrages. Just aim for the center, and even if you scatter you'll still blow huge chunks out of his army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/18 03:11:30
Subject: Re:IG vs castle tau
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Manticore or that mortar that ignores cover...either way, blast the heck out of it with artillery. If you want to get funky, maybe deep striking Storm Troopers with flamers, or scout sentinels with heavy flamers coming from the sides. Tau don't like AP4 ignores cover.
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While they are singing "what a friend we have in the greater good", we are bringing the pain! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/18 03:18:07
Subject: IG vs castle tau
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Colossus teams will be the best in my opinion. Large blast armour and cover ignoring blasts. (unless tau have 2+ saves I dont know).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/18 03:22:18
Subject: Re:IG vs castle tau
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Zealous Shaolin
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I have found the Eradicator to be quite fun against tau as well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/18 03:25:49
Subject: Re:IG vs castle tau
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Or if you are worried about his Hammerheads I would take the Leman Russ Eradicator, most underrated tank in the IG arsenal. S6 AP4 ignores cover will wreck all those little fire warriors if that is what the majority of his gunline is. Other then that all the other Guard Artillery are great choices.
A neat trick to do with your massive blob squad idea. Take Dark Angel Allies with Azrael and a squad of cheap x5 man scouts. Put Azrael with with Blob squad, you now have over x50 Guardsmen with a 4+ invulnerable save and fearless charging your buddies Tau, its hilarious to watch!
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19th Krieg Siege Army 7500pts.
40k/HH Night Lords 5000pts.
Orks Waaaghmacht Spearhead 2500pts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/18 10:32:28
Subject: Re:IG vs castle tau
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Fixture of Dakka
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gmaleron wrote:Or if you are worried about his Hammerheads I would take the Leman Russ Eradicator, most underrated tank in the IG arsenal. S6 AP4 ignores cover will wreck all those little fire warriors if that is what the majority of his gunline is. Other then that all the other Guard Artillery are great choices.
A neat trick to do with your massive blob squad idea. Take Dark Angel Allies with Azrael and a squad of cheap x5 man scouts. Put Azrael with with Blob squad, you now have over x50 Guardsmen with a 4+ invulnerable save and fearless charging your buddies Tau, its hilarious to watch!
...I want to kill vehicles, so I take one of the Leman Russ varieties least suited to vehicle killing?
I mean, I agree that the Eradicator is useful against cover camping gunlines and needs more love, but your reasoning didn't follow.
If you want to kill Tau Hammerheads at long range but feel that sabre platform/heavy weapon team lascannon spam isn't your thing, Vendettas get shot down too much, and Melta-stormies/Vets are too risky, you get a Pasquisher with a lascannon and either multi-melta or plasma cannon sponsons (with maybe some more vanqs if you really hate tanks), rapier laser destroyers, or bastion breacher medusas, maybe Devil dogs or Anti-armor Sentinels if you feel that they'll survive with their >AV12.
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Midnightdeathblade wrote:Think of a daemon incursion like a fart you don't quite trust... you could either toot a little puff of air, bellow a great effluvium, or utterly sh*t your pants and cry as it floods down your leg.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/18 11:12:37
Subject: Re:IG vs castle tau
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Death-Dealing Dark Angels Devastator
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Hellhounds and Devil Dogs will also do the trick.
A Hellhound can put its template on the enemy on turn 1 if deployed correctly -- that's also S6 AP4 ignores cover. You can give it a heavy flamer in the hull too.
For the bigger stuff, I think the Devil Dog doesn't get the credit it's due. It can move 12" and still fire an MM and a small S8 AP1 blast, both of which you should be able to get off turn one. You can squadron those guys and they're both cheaper than a base Leman Russ.
I would recommend rushing towards their lines with some of those guys, with some chimera's full of melta and flamer vets riding just behind. Hammer him from above with artillery and he will have to pick his targets in terms of what is zooming straight at him. Some of that is going to get through without a doubt.
As someone else mentioned, outflanking heavy-flamer sentinels isn't a bad idea either. Cheap as hell too -- 120 points for three.
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2,500 points
2,500 points
1,500 points
41-31 since returning to the game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/18 11:36:11
Subject: Re:IG vs castle tau
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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I've won games vs tau with my orkses purely cause i ran guard allies with eradicator. Killing pathfinders turn one is extremely important and eradicator has good chances to cripple those guyz and not to die itself in return.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/18 11:41:05
Subject: Re:IG vs castle tau
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Death-Dealing Dark Angels Devastator
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My only problem with the Eradicator is that it is a one-trick pony and and all the other variants are just more flexible and better overall.
Because it's fast and has the potential to put out a HF template too, the Hellhound is overall better for that task and can hit more models reliably with its torrent template.
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2,500 points
2,500 points
1,500 points
41-31 since returning to the game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/18 12:15:43
Subject: IG vs castle tau
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Guardsman with Flashlight
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Leman Russ Vanquishers, Strength 8 and 2D6 to pen.
These will deal with the Hammerheads no problem at all.
I run one in my force and it's always the star of the show taking out a vehicle a turn until it's blow up (it does attach a bit of attention).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/18 12:16:36
Subject: IG vs castle tau
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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Vendettas for the av12 vehicles.
2 griffons wil inflict 3.333 unsaved wounds on a crisis suit for every 3 wounds caused by a single collosus. Against shield drones or marker/gun drones out in the open the ratio improves to 10 to 3 in favor of the griffon. Fire warriors behind an aegis are the same as drones in the open, with a 3+ cover from g2g in area terrain the ratio is the same as crisis suits, and in area terrain without g2g the ratio is 6.66 to 3 in favor of the griffon.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/18 20:49:01
Subject: IG vs castle tau
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Black Templar Recruit Undergoing Surgeries
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While far from the best tactical decision, if you're playing a friendly game you can always bring a deathstrike missile. Hide it fully in cover and when it fires you get a 8"-12" S10 AP1 blast that ignores cover, which means it has the capability of wiping his entire army if he's really castled.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/19 04:30:03
Subject: Re:IG vs castle tau
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Where can I find the rules for the saber platform?
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In before thread lock. |
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