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As an ork player I love making looted tanks and dreads I use parts from all races and justified it as my army is mek happy deathskulls. Heck I even have looted carnifexes and count them as Deffdreads.

Now I wanted to go one step further: looted necrons. Seems fitting for my Orks as they loot everything and necrons are pretty much skinny bots to them. Not to mention I really want to build up some looted monoliths for new battlewagons.

However one of my mates, who has been a necron player for as long as I have been an Ork player, Says that looting necrons are impossible as they phase out after death and therefore cant be looted. Is there any example in the fluff that a) the necrons phase out after death and/or b) any necrons were taken after death? I most likely will stick to my "looted necron" idea but just want to double check is all.

Necrons DO generally phase out after being destroyed. Even the ones you catch in a sweeping advance or whatever. They can be perma-killed, if the damage is great enough (anything that would have denied them WBB in 4th ed) but usually the broken pieces will still be teleported back into the tomb, and I guess used for spare parts or something. It is possible to loot their wargear though-- Callidus assassins and Cypher both use Necron weapons. If you destroy the entire tomb complex and it doesn't go nuclear, you might be able to loot all the armories therein.

 TheBarmyBrit wrote:
As an ork player I love making looted tanks and dreads I use parts from all races and justified it as my army is mek happy deathskulls. Heck I even have looted carnifexes and count them as Deffdreads.

Now I wanted to go one step further: looted necrons. Seems fitting for my Orks as they loot everything and necrons are pretty much skinny bots to them. Not to mention I really want to build up some looted monoliths for new battlewagons.

However one of my mates, who has been a necron player for as long as I have been an Ork player, Says that looting necrons are impossible as they phase out after death and therefore cant be looted. Is there any example in the fluff that a) the necrons phase out after death and/or b) any necrons were taken after death? I most likely will stick to my "looted necron" idea but just want to double check is all.

There are plenty of examples where they do phase out/self-destruct after death, yes, particularly in 'oldcron' fluff where there was the massed phase-out issue. However there are many instances where this is simply not possible and as such Orks looting Necron tech is entirely possible, just perhaps more difficult than the average. Besides, they could just as easily have stumbled on an inactive tomb world and started nicking stuff on site.

There's a funny example in the 'Cron codex of Big Mek Eadcrumpa who struck a deal with a Necron Lord for some Doomsday Cannons, but during a subsequent planetary invasion of another world, had an 'accident' investigating their systems which duly wiped out the entire Waaagh and said planet.

I would say go for it. There are a fair number of examples of necron weapons getting used by the IoM. I cannot see how a vehicle that gets separated from it's pilot would be particularly different.

Also it is possible that you looted a tomb complex. If any faction has done it it would be the orks.

I think looted nids would be more of a problem.

Besides, looted monoliths have happened a lot. Especially here

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/577033.page

While it is true that Necrons do 'phase out' and disappear, they disappear back to somewhere. While the orks might not be able to loot a necron scouting party, or the front of an advancing necron force, that certainly doesn't mean that orks who attack a necron 'base' of some sort couldn't grab some choice scrap. The necrons there don't have anywhere else to teleport to!

In fact, given the orkish 'mastery' of tellyportation, I could see a particularly determined mek even piggy-backing his own tellyporta onto a necron signal and beaming the lads back after the tinboys for exactly this purpose! Serves the shiny metal gits right for runnin' away!

Thinking more about it it would seem likely that there would be considerable numbers of looted necron stuff considering the war in heaven. The question is how much of this survive 1 million years of ork usage (could be alot considering living metal and all) and how orky it looks now. I could see an entirely necron based ork klan who make all their things like the necrons during the war in heaven used to.

Also, orks, with there mastery of shield and forcefield technology could probably make some sort of device to block the necron teleportation. A KFF that stops da gits from runnin from a good fight!

Necrons do phase out, but the Adeptus Mechanicus do have devices they can clamp onto Necrons in the moment they start to phase out that prevent it occuring. They work about fifty percent of the time (on a 4+ if the necron is killed in close combat by a model carrying them, according to White Dwarf 217).

If the Imperials can do it, the Orks sure can, especially since they were designed to fight Necrons.

Thank you guys for your help on the fluff side of things. I knew I could count on you guys to sort it out.
I am going to stick with my original idea then: my warlord looted up a tomb world, hot-wiring/rebuilding the necrons for his army. I can't wait to build up the units, so many conversions to make .

 ansacs wrote:
Thinking more about it it would seem likely that there would be considerable numbers of looted necron stuff considering the war in heaven. The question is how much of this survive 1 million years of ork usage (could be alot considering living metal and all) and how orky it looks now. I could see an entirely necron based ork klan who make all their things like the necrons during the war in heaven used to.

Over 60 millions years of Ork usage. I doubt anything looted would have survived since that time, the Necron owned Necron machines are pretty run down after all that time in stasis, natural forces would have ended them long ago, and that's without plenty of Orky tlc.

Animus wrote:

 ansacs wrote:
Thinking more about it it would seem likely that there would be considerable numbers of looted necron stuff considering the war in heaven. The question is how much of this survive 1 million years of ork usage (could be alot considering living metal and all) and how orky it looks now. I could see an entirely necron based ork klan who make all their things like the necrons during the war in heaven used to.

Over 60 millions years of Ork usage. I doubt anything looted would have survived since that time, the Necron owned Necron machines are pretty run down after all that time in stasis, natural forces would have ended them long ago, and that's without plenty of Orky tlc.

Perhaps all the orky stuff is necron scrap

Even the Imperium has captured some Necron tech that, through battlefield damage, lost its phase-out functionality. Of course, the Imperium is largely incapable of understanding any of this tech (to be fair, so is everyone else in the setting), so it should be possible for Orks to hit a Monolith "just right" to where its phase-out sub-systems become inoperative.

OK. Seeing this thread means I must share this. This is not mine. This is courtesy of Irondogstudios.com and is posted here without permission.

 Psienesis wrote:
Even the Imperium has captured some Necron tech that, through battlefield damage, lost its phase-out functionality. Of course, the Imperium is largely incapable of understanding any of this tech (to be fair, so is everyone else in the setting), so it should be possible for Orks to hit a Monolith "just right" to where its phase-out sub-systems become inoperative.

WD217 features a scenario where Imperial troopers can prevent Necrons phasing out with dohickeys.

 ansacs wrote:

Animus wrote:

 ansacs wrote:
Thinking more about it it would seem likely that there would be considerable numbers of looted necron stuff considering the war in heaven. The question is how much of this survive 1 million years of ork usage (could be alot considering living metal and all) and how orky it looks now. I could see an entirely necron based ork klan who make all their things like the necrons during the war in heaven used to.

Over 60 millions years of Ork usage. I doubt anything looted would have survived since that time, the Necron owned Necron machines are pretty run down after all that time in stasis, natural forces would have ended them long ago, and that's without plenty of Orky tlc.

Perhaps all the orky stuff is necron scrap

I do like this idea, but I prefer my scrap fresh from the fight rather then scattered around Makes the looting more fun

 Happyjew wrote:
OK. Seeing this thread means I must share this. This is not mine. This is courtesy of Irondogstudios.com and is posted here without permission.

I love those squigs, I actually got a few mech-squigs for objectives/grot oilers/ammo runts. I might build up more for the scarabs as they are mighty useful against armored armies and would be fun to build up.

 Furyou Miko wrote:

 Psienesis wrote:
Even the Imperium has captured some Necron tech that, through battlefield damage, lost its phase-out functionality. Of course, the Imperium is largely incapable of understanding any of this tech (to be fair, so is everyone else in the setting), so it should be possible for Orks to hit a Monolith "just right" to where its phase-out sub-systems become inoperative.

WD217 features a scenario where Imperial troopers can prevent Necrons phasing out with dohickeys.

If anything that sounds more Orky then anything else