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Some head scratching rules choices in this one. Here we go:

I - Bioblast Node
1 TWarrior Brood - Must take an item from Basic Biocannon
3 Carnifex Broods - Must take items from Monst. Biocannons
1 Tyrannofex
Bio-Deluge - All units in this formation have the Split Fire special rule. All formation units within 12" of the TWarrior brood can reroll ToWound 1s in the Shooting Phase.

II - Wrecker Node
1 TWarrior Brood - Cannot take items from the Basic Biocannons
3 Carnifex Broods - Cannot take itesm from the Monstrous Biocannons
Rampage of Destruction: Carnifexes inflict D3+1 HoW hits. Models from this formation within 12" of the TWarrior brood can reroll failed ToWound 1s in the Assault Phase.

III - Tyrant Node
1 HTyrant (cannot take wings)
1 TGuard Brood (unit must contain 3 models)
1 VThrope brood
Command Node: HT +6" Synapse

IV - Sub. Swarm
1 Trygon Prime
1 Trygon
1 Mawloc
3 Ravener Broods
They Came from Below - Formation starts in reserve. Roll 1 dice for the entire formation. Once the TryPrime's location has been found, all ravener units/models must be within 1" of the TryPrime. Raveners cannot move/assault, but can shoot run. Mawloc and Trygon follow normal DS rules, but come in with the rest of the formation.

V - Living Tide
1 Tyrant Node
1 Synaptic Swarm
3 Endless Swarms
1 Wrecker Node
1 Skyblight Swarm
Follow all restrictions/rules found in their special rules. Formation units also have fear. All synapse creatures +6" synapse range as long as the HT from the Tyrant Node is alive. Able to reroll Endless Swarm/Skyswarm rolls.

Note - I think the BioBlast Carnifex Broods were probably intended to be 1 unit of 3 Carnis rather than 3 separate units, otherwise SF would be useless unless one were to bring multiple carni per brood. As it stands, Tyranno don't benefit from SF anyway. Possibly the same unit formation question regarding the Wrecker Node too. Although if not, this opens the door to a tonnnn of carni (not that that door wasn't open to begin with, but yowza).

In my opinion:

1 is the best, for an out of FOC Tyrannofex. Plus, 3 split fire dakkafexs will kill things like no ones business. I'd say give one of them regen.

2 is meh. Why do we want CC Fexs exactly?

3 is also bad. A walking tyrant, and 3 guard for free dominion? Or Flyrants... Yeah, lets do that.

4 is tricky a mass DS is actually kinda cool as it will just be too much to handle. Some will like, but I won't use it.

5 is without a doubt the most broken thing inbthe game... If you could bring it to a game lol. It's APOC only and really cool, but won't see use much.

The Living Tide formation is just over 3k points with the cheapest primary detachment and no biomorph upgrades, so def APOC level.

Is someone in GW being paid based on how many warrior models they sell?

Yes. And dataslates.

I - Bioblast Node
1 TWarrior Brood - Must take an item from Basic Biocannon
3 Carnifex Broods - Must take items from Monst. Biocannons
1 Tyrannofex
Bio-Deluge - All units in this formation have the Split Fire special rule. All formation units within 12" of the TWarrior brood can reroll failed 1s in the Shooting Phase.

Split firing Carnifex's that re-roll 1's to hit is freakin awesome!

bodazoka wrote:
I - Bioblast Node
1 TWarrior Brood - Must take an item from Basic Biocannon
3 Carnifex Broods - Must take items from Monst. Biocannons
1 Tyrannofex
Bio-Deluge - All units in this formation have the Split Fire special rule. All formation units within 12" of the TWarrior brood can reroll failed 1s in the Shooting Phase.

Split firing Carnifex's that re-roll 1's to hit is freakin awesome!

Not to mention 1's to wound. It does not specify reroll just 1's to hit.

If the swarmlord can replace the hive tyrant for the node, I could see skyblight + Tyrant Node + support for an 1850 game.

It should have been to-wound 1s in the shooting phase for BBlast. My bad. Corrected.

Note- most of your Monst. Biocannons are TL'd anyway.

swcorwyn wrote:
Not to mention 1's to wound. It does not specify reroll just 1's to hit.

My bad I meant 1's to wound which is better considering the weapon we all take is twin linked anyway and you can't re roll a re roll.

Split fire is where it's at though! the amount of times I have been scared to fire at a unit I want to charge because im worried ill kill enough to make it out of charge range!

Does Split Fire allow the Tyrannofex to assault a different unit than what it shot? Or does Split Fire not do anything for the Tyrannofex in the first formation?

 Kain wrote:
Is someone in GW being paid based on how many warrior models they sell?

Yes, every employee they have. That's how businesses work.

Ok i was dubious of these rules in the rumors thread earlier, but citadel was on the money last month with the Rising Leviathan 2 units, so i have to give this some validity now.

As far as split fire on a tyrannofex goes, technically the rule only allows a different model in the unit to fire at a different target, so he wouldn't actually benefit from it. A revision to he dataslate that says "a tyrannofex may fire at 2 separate targets if he passes his split fire test" would be awesome (but unlikely).

These sound cool, I'm excited to use the Ravener formation because I just love those models, and they typically perform well for me. Having 9-27 of them pop up alongside 3 monstrous creatures all at once is going to cause some serious target priority issues for my opponent.

Sadly GW Digital's facebook page has been deleted, so i do not know if we will get fast responses/updates to any issues that might arise with these dataslates. I'm praying that after GW redoes their site in april we might see a new GW digital Facebook page emerge, but i'm doubtful at the moment.

Zimko wrote:
Does Split Fire allow the Tyrannofex to assault a different unit than what it shot? Or does Split Fire not do anything for the Tyrannofex in the first formation?

Split fire doesn't do anything for the Tyrannofex, nor for single model unit of carnis. The version of SplitFire in Killteam allows for models to target different units with its shots, but not the normal BRB version. It's really just a bonus for the Warriors and Carni broods if you take more than one.


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@tetrisphreak I searched for that exact addendum but to no avail. It's odd that the wording is "All units in this formaiton have..." indicating that the TFex is granted Split Fire but has no use for it. At least it opens up some HS slots for Carnis, which is nice, but the formation alone with dual TLs on the Fexi is already ~800 pts. I'm toying with taking 1 flyrant and 1 prime, 2carni 1carni 1carni, 2 tFex and a crone, with 4 MSU terma and a Venom/Zoan just to see what happens.

I hope the Swarmlord can be used in place of the hive tyrant. Really would like to use him now and then =/

@heracyangel It really would have been the perfect opportunity to throw in a Swarmlord, which would then carry a 24" synapse range (lynchpin + command node), but the formation is specific in mentioning a HT, and there is no "upgrade to SL" option anywhere in the following pages. In fact, the term "Swarmlord" appears nowhere in the slate itself.

tetrisphreak wrote:Ok i was dubious of these rules in the rumors thread earlier, but citadel was on the money last month with the Rising Leviathan 2 units, so i have to give this some validity now.

The same rules were posted on The Tyranid Hive board by someone who also posted Invasion rules a few hours early at the start of this month. They're looking pretty legit.

heracyangel wrote:I hope the Swarmlord can be used in place of the hive tyrant. Really would like to use him now and then =/

There's no real benefit to putting the Swarmlord in that formation anyway... if he's not in the Primary detachment he can't use his Warlord Trait (although the formation bonus does the same thing). You're better off with Swarmy in the main detachment and a Walkrant in the formation, getting better Synapse.

Zimko wrote:Does Split Fire allow the Tyrannofex to assault a different unit than what it shot? Or does Split Fire not do anything for the Tyrannofex in the first formation?

It does nothing for the T-fex, only for multi-model units. Here's a (probably fairly niche) use for the Bio-blast split fire bonus:

Stick a Prime in a big Dakkafex brood. Use Split Fire with the Primes' Ld10 to fire a few pot shots at something nearby. Then fire the Fexes on something else they're likely to ruin. Your brood can now charge the closer unit because the Prime shot at it, letting you wipe out 2 targets a turn.

citadel wrote:
@heracyangel It really would have been the perfect opportunity to throw in a Swarmlord, which would then carry a 24" synapse range (lynchpin + command node), but the formation is specific in mentioning a HT, and there is no "upgrade to SL" option anywhere in the following pages. In fact, the term "Swarmlord" appears nowhere in the slate itself.

I was thinking the same thing. If you wanted mega-synapse nothing is stopping you from taking a norn crown, but part of the swarmlord's charm is his combat prowess along with all his support tricks (reserves, buffing units within 18", mastery level 3).

Oh well, it's still an extra hive tyrant for those willing to take a guard and a venomthrope as tax.

citadel wrote:
Note- most of your Monst. Biocannons are TL'd anyway.

No the M. Biocannons are not TL, the Basic Montrous bioguns are TL.

To bad the tyrant node can npt count as the HQ requirement. I would have liked to see something like the tyranid vets or Cypher slates that actually added new optional Units to the standard FOC, like the the old Armored Tyrant.

citadel wrote:


I - Bioblast Node
1 TWarrior Brood - Must take an item from Basic Biocannon
3 Carnifex Broods - Must take items from Monst. Biocannons
1 Tyrannofex
Bio-Deluge - All units in this formation have the Split Fire special rule. All formation units within 12" of the TWarrior brood can reroll ToWound 1s in the Shooting Phase.

The special rules aren't too great here, Split Fire only really benefits the C-fexes and they have to pass a test with Ld7 to use it. Bio-cannons rarely need less than 2+ to wound, and the T-Fex can't use Split Fire at all. Meh.

I think the main benefit of this formation is ignoring the FOC. You can fill the main detachment with nice, cheap Biovores or Exocrines while the Fexes absorb fire.

citadel wrote:

II - Wrecker Node
1 TWarrior Brood - Cannot take items from the Basic Biocannons
3 Carnifex Broods - Cannot take itesm from the Monstrous Biocannons
Rampage of Destruction: Carnifexes inflict D3+1 HoW hits. Models from this formation within 12" of the TWarrior brood can reroll failed ToWound 1s in the Assault Phase.

Free S9 HoW hits are never a bad thing, an each one has a good chance of stripping another HP from a vehicle, if not killing it.

Assuming this formation allows for 3 broods of 1-3 Fexes, I think it can be a really effective way to spam them. Again the benefit is ignoring the FOC, so you can take lots of single Fexes and ignore any Feed results for IB.

citadel wrote:

III - Tyrant Node
1 HTyrant (cannot take wings)
1 TGuard Brood (unit must contain 3 models)
1 VThrope brood
Command Node: HT +6" Synapse

Surprisingly the cheapest option here. Let's you squeeze in extra HT and Venom units that ignores the FOC, and you get a free norn crown for the trouble. Pick Dominion as one of your powers (and maybe take a real norn crown) and you can have 24-30" synapse on this dude. Nice.

citadel wrote:

IV - Sub. Swarm
1 Trygon Prime
1 Trygon
1 Mawloc
3 Ravener Broods
They Came from Below - Formation starts in reserve. Roll 1 dice for the entire formation. Once the TryPrime's location has been found, all ravener units/models must be within 1" of the TryPrime. Raveners cannot move/assault, but can shoot run. Mawloc and Trygon follow normal DS rules, but come in with the rest of the formation.

If you own a lot of Raveners/Trygons this is a pretty good way to run them. Don't underestimate the target saturation of 18 T6 and 27+ T4 wounds all appearing at once in the enemy deployment zone. Will probably work well alongside the Deathleaper formation.
I see this the same way as the Genestealer formations, good if you have the models, but nothing revolutionary or game-changing.

barnowl wrote: No the M. Biocannons are not TL, the Basic Montrous bioguns are TL.

I was referring to the TLDev and TLDeathspitter, which are both classified as Monstrous Biocannons. You are right in that not all the M. Biocannons are TL, such as the HVC and STC. However, there is no "Basic Monstrous Bioguns" classification, and the basic bioguns themseles are not twinlinked (although I wish they were).

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@DarkStarSabre, I just fell under your Shadows of the Warp. Well timed, indeed!

citadel wrote:

barnowl wrote: No the M. Biocannons are not TL, the Basic Montrous bioguns are TL.

I was referring to the TLDev and TLDeathspitter, which are both classified as Monstrous Biocannons. You are right in that not all the M. Biocannons are TL, such as the HVC and STC. However, there is no "Basic Monstrous Bioguns" classification, and the basic bioguns themseles are not twinlinked (although I wish they were).

True, but just saw the new dataslate and got to say TL devourers that reroll ones to wound is nice to have again. Splitfire is a bit meh on the fexes but nice on the warriors.

I'm thinking that 3 Warriors plus 3 Dakkafexs is a great formation to have, better than the living Artillery Node. Maybe it's not as good as Skyblight, but I really like it.

And most of us already have the models.

citadel wrote:


Note - I think the BioBlast Carnifex Broods were probably intended to be 1 unit of 3 Carnis rather than 3 separate units, otherwise SF would be useless unless one were to bring multiple carni per brood. As it stands, Tyranno don't benefit from SF anyway. Possibly the same unit formation question regarding the Wrecker Node too. Although if not, this opens the door to a tonnnn of carni (not that that door wasn't open to begin with, but yowza).

Split fire also benefits the warriors. No error here.

Also, can a MC with split fire target two different units, as they can fire 2 weapons per turn

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Also, can a MC with split fire target two different units, as they can fire 2 weapons per turn

Nope. 1 target per model unless it is Power of the Machine Spirit or Super Heavy.