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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/28 15:26:20
Subject: IG Armored Battle Group List -1850
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Dangerous Outrider
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Alright guys, going to a tournament tomorrow and wanted to see what you all thought of my list. Here goes.
HQ
Company Command Leman Russ
BattleCannon
H Bolter Sponsons
Infernus Shells
Artificier Hull
Lascannon
HQ
Company Command Leman Russ
Vanquisher
Co-axal Stubber
Beast Hunter Shells
Artificer hull
Lascannon
Heavy Bolter Sponsons
ELITE
Commisar Tank
Vanquisher
Co-Axial Stubber
Beast Hunter Shells
Artificer hull
Lascannon
TROOPS
Leman Russ Battle Cannon
Lascannon
Plasma Cannon sponsons
TROOPS
Leman Russ Siege
Demolisher
TROOPS
Leman Russ Executioner
Heavy Bolter Sponsons
Lascannon
TROOPS
Leman Russ Executioner
Heavy Bolter Sponsons
FAST ATTACK
Vendeatta Gunshipsx2
Flare/chaff
HEAVY SUPPORT
Two Hydra Flak tanks
Automatically Appended Next Post: ((Whoops missed one tank)
TROOPS
Leman Russ
Battle Cannon
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/03/28 15:27:27
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/28 15:31:29
Subject: Re:IG Armored Battle Group List -1850
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I don't own the book for this army but if I understand your list correctly you have no scoring units?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/28 15:34:18
Subject: IG Armored Battle Group List -1850
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Dangerous Outrider
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The Troop choices count as scoring in the ArmoredBattle Group. Automatically Appended Next Post: (Edit, just checked the book, I have no scoring units in this list. I'm still okay with that.)
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/03/28 15:40:37
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/28 17:45:35
Subject: IG Armored Battle Group List -1850
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I would split the Vendetta's into 2 so you don't waste Lascannon shots.
What book is this that has these rules because i would love to run this type of list.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/28 17:48:40
Subject: IG Armored Battle Group List -1850
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Regular Dakkanaut
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imperial armour 1 Volume 2
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Only the Insane have strength enough to prosper, Only those who prosper may truly judge what is sane. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/28 18:20:28
Subject: IG Armored Battle Group List -1850
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Dangerous Outrider
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I agree with that. My plan is to simply just destroy everything as fast as I can and pose a a threat to my opponent with all the AV 14 and fliers. I won't be able to really take any objectives, but my plan is to contest them and win by score point. First blood should be easy to take with this list, Line breaker shouldn't be too hard or Slay the warlord.
Big guns never tire would be amazing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/28 18:27:05
Subject: IG Armored Battle Group List -1850
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Steady Space Marine Vet Sergeant
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Matt2429 wrote:I would split the Vendetta's into 2 so you don't waste Lascannon shots.
unfortunately, you cant...
vendetta gunships, in the ABG list, come as part of an Imperial Navy gunship support squadron, which is capped to 0-1 per list.
It seems like you're ok with having no scoring units... each to their own
Also, for the LR's with battle tanks, take away their sponsons, and lascannons. The battle tanks are ordnance so you are unable to fire the additional weapons at full BS. This makes your sponsons wasted, so move them to tanks that dont have sponsons and dont have ordnance weaponry.
Also, identify the main guns target and pick sponson weapons that compliment it. I.E. The vanquisher is Anti-tank, so take MMs or PCs as sponsons. Bolters are wasted when you are shooting av12+. Executioners have mid S and high AP weapons, compliment them with PC sponsons or bolters.
IMO, you have enough anti-tank to make the vendettas superfluous.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/28 18:33:19
Subject: IG Armored Battle Group List -1850
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Dangerous Outrider
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Do you think maybe that I should replace the Vendettas with something else? I thought they were a good choice to soak up fire and to really bring the beat down on somthing I needed dead on turn two.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/28 18:39:08
Subject: IG Armored Battle Group List -1850
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Steady Space Marine Vet Sergeant
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Definately. 260 points is a big sink for 6 lascannons, in a list with ridiculous anti-tank.
Your hydras should deal with enemy fliers.
I'm going to suggest a Vulture with twin linked punisher cannons (they look awesome and put out serious fire power). They have Vector Dancer, so you can prance about in the sky and line up some easy backfield kills.
If a Vulture doesn't interest you, more LRs...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/28 22:04:28
Subject: Re:IG Armored Battle Group List -1850
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Can Imperial Knights ally with ABG? That could be a cool combo.
Also you mentioned contesting objectives but I don't believe vehicles are denial units?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/30 05:22:46
Subject: IG Armored Battle Group List -1850
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Dangerous Outrider
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Just came back from the Tournament, list didn't do so well haha.
From what I learned, more Demolishers are the way to go. STR 10 AP 1 will deal with any issue that you encounter. Especially when your commander can make that round ignore cover.
Vanquisher's with Beast Hunter Shells are amazing, easily the bread and butter to this army. Seeing the look on your opponent's face when you one shot their Dread knight/wraith knight/ riptide is amazing.
In 1850 General Grizmund isn't worth it. It's a lot ob points that won't be used and there is no need to have more than two battle cannons, also you're eating up a beast hunter Vanqusiher.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Believe it or not, the Exterminator's got a lot of work done. They poured a lot of shots out and drew fire due to their high rates of fire.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/03/30 05:30:53
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/30 19:03:38
Subject: IG Armored Battle Group List -1850
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Discriminating Deathmark Assassin
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Am I right in thinking Hydras do not have interceptor and are side armour eleven? I imagine any flyer heavy list will batter them the turn their fliers come in. This could make things v sticky if you drop the vendettas.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/30 21:12:18
Subject: IG Armored Battle Group List -1850
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Dangerous Outrider
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That is essentially what happened. Two Stormravens came in that turn and immediatly destroyed one of them and shook the other, leaving them rather useless. I have reworked my list a little bit though. What do you all think of the second go around?
1850 Pts - IA: Armoured Battle Group Roster
2 Battle Tank Squadron
2 Battle Tank Squadron
1 Commissar Tank
1 Commissar Tank - Heavy Bolter Sponsons; Vanquisher Battle Cannon; Lascannon; Co-axial Heavy Stubber; Camo Netting
[Unassigned: 1 Heavy Bolter Sponsons]
2 Company Command Tank
2 Company Command Tank - Heavy Bolter Sponsons; Vanquisher Battle Cannon; Lascannon; Co-axial Heavy Stubber
2 Hydra Flak Tank
2 Hydra Flak Tank - Twin-Linked Hydra Autocannons; Auto-targeting System; Heavy Bolter
[Unassigned: 2 Twin-Linked Hydra Autocannons]
1 Hydra Flak Tank Battery
1 Hydra Flak Tank Battery
1 Imperial Navy Gunship Support
1 Imperial Navy Gunship Support
5 Leman Russ
2 Leman Russ - Heavy Bolter Sponsons; Demolisher Siege Cannon; Lascannon
1 Leman Russ - Twin-Linked Lascannon; Heavy Bolter
1 Leman Russ - Twin-Linked Lascannon; Lascannon
1 Leman Russ - Demolisher Siege Cannon; Heavy Bolter
3 Siege Tank Squadron
3 Siege Tank Squadron
1 Vendetta
1 Vendetta - Twin-linked Lascannon; Extra Armour
[Unassigned: 2 Twin-linked Lascannon]
Total Roster Cost: 1855
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