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I have been playing crons for awhile now, and frankly just want to switch things up. I know there are some kickass deathstar builds out there for other armies, and I am aware crons wont be able to top those. However, I wanted some ideas on some different deathstar builds.

What models to include?
What gear if applicable?
How should I run it? What tactics?
Any ideas on supporting units for the remainder of the army?

Really I am just looking for ideas. An idea I saw here in dakka recently in the Battle Report section was 3 HQ's and 3 spyders. It seemed very interesting and got me thinking.

I want to try this in my next game on Friday so I have plenty of time to mull it over and fiddle with the list.

Thanks!

Wraithstar is the most common and actually I think won a GT.

It's literally just spammed Wraiths and D-Lords w/ Wraiths and troops in Nightscythes to grab objectives.

D-Lord gives the Wraiths Preferred enemy.

I don't know what models you have but that's the most common "deathstar" for Necrons.

The other is Deathmark Despair Spam. Deathmarks in Nightscythes with a Despairtek to get a 2+ AP1 template it's less functional IMO but still really good.

Another one is a royal court - 5 lords + overlord decked out in weave, scythes, mss and phase, with a few teks thrown in for good measure.

Spyderstar.

Zandrek + Obyron + Destroyer Lord + 3 Tomb Spyders.

One of the guys from the 40k Global podcast has been running it with decent success, and you can get more details from listening to their podcast episodes from the Caledonian Uprising tournament (episodes 108, 109, and 110) at 40kglobal.com.

Thud wrote:
Spyderstar.

Zandrek + Obyron + Destroyer Lord + 3 Tomb Spyders.

One of the guys from the 40k Global podcast has been running it with decent success, and you can get more details from listening to their podcast episodes from the Caledonian Uprising tournament (episodes 108, 109, and 110) at 40kglobal.com.

Awesome! Thanks for the info I will check that out for sure.

This type of death star is sort of what i was wanting to run. Seems like an interesting thing to try, especially since Obyron can ghostwalk the unit around the board.

For a shooty star i was considering this same type of deal but instead of 3 spyders I was going to include a royal court. 5 lords with the ap3 staves and some shooty crypteks. Seemed to fragile to be worth the points though. 18 shots at str 5 ap3 is nasty though, and thats before the crypteks shooting. could add 5 more shots at str8 ap2, or even the abyssal staffs for some ap1 templates.

I used this one heavily in 5th and it still works okay in 6th.

Overlord: Warscythe, Sempiternal Weave, MSS, Phase Shifter
Zhandrekh
Obyron
5 Lychguard: Sword and Board
2 Storm Crypteks with Lightning Fields

It is a steamroller of a unit and is very mobile with Obyron. Using Zhandrekh carefully allows incredible flexibility as well.

 buddha wrote:
I used this one heavily in 5th and it still works okay in 6th.

Overlord: Warscythe, Sempiternal Weave, MSS, Phase Shifter
Zhandrekh
Obyron
5 Lychguard: Sword and Board
2 Storm Crypteks with Lightning Fields

It is a steamroller of a unit and is very mobile with Obyron. Using Zhandrekh carefully allows incredible flexibility as well.

Yeah that is an interesting one as well. The T6 and 9 wounds from spyders was sounding pretty enticing, but that 3++ on the lychguard could really help out when you ghost walk them into enemy territory.

I might try each one in a game to see how it works. The Lychguard is more points though.

I have played about 10 games with the Spyder Star. Yeah, not enough... but I don't have enough free time for lots of playtesting. I have won most of the games, but the learning curve is steep for making it competitive against top players and killer builds. I'm taking it to Adepticon with hopes to play some more tough opponents. I've found that it's important to be cagey and not overly aggressive.

A

The Necron Deathstars:
• D.Lord-Wraith-Star (if you don't already know what this is, where have you been for the past few years?)
• Royal Court Disco Inferno (Overlord + 5 Lords, all decked out with the best combat wargear, riding around in a hijacked Ghost Ark with a handful of useful Harbingers. MCs and Terminators beware)
• Shooty Court (similar to the RCDI above, but everyone has Staff of Light instead. MEQs beware)
• Spyder-Star (Zahndrekh, Obyron, D.Lord, 3 Spyders. Absolute wrecking ball. Can stand toe-to-toe with most of the current competitive deathstars, but very tricky to learn how to use)
• Trazyn-Lych-Bomb (T + lots of S&S Lychguard + ResOrb Lord (and maybe a Chrono-tek). Very hard to put down, as T will just keep coming back... but not the most effective build we've got)
• D.Lord + Praetorians (similar to Wraith build above, but different use. Good for hunting vehicles or TEQs, depending on how you arm them)

I wouldn't classify the Death & Despair Squad as a deathstar, so much as it is a deathstar killer. (Just a combo, really. Like the 'ole 2 Storm-teks + a Veil-tek combo).

Oh, and fyi-

 Rezyn wrote:
The T6 and 9 wounds from spyders was sounding pretty enticing, but that 3++ on the lychguard could really help out when you ghost walk them into enemy territory.

The Lychguard would only have 4++ saves. Only Phase Shifters confer 3++ in the codex, and only HQ and Wraiths have it available.

 Rezyn wrote:
I have been playing crons for awhile now, and frankly just want to switch things up. I know there are some kickass deathstar builds out there for other armies, and I am aware crons wont be able to top those. However, I wanted some ideas on some different deathstar builds.

What models to include?
What gear if applicable?
How should I run it? What tactics?
Any ideas on supporting units for the remainder of the army?

Really I am just looking for ideas. An idea I saw here in dakka recently in the Battle Report section was 3 HQ's and 3 spyders. It seemed very interesting and got me thinking.

I want to try this in my next game on Friday so I have plenty of time to mull it over and fiddle with the list.

Thanks!

Ever heard of the Royal court disco inferno? A full court of lords and crypteks stuck to an overlord (or perhaps kutlakh), all pimped out as much as possible on a ghost ark.

It's perhaps the nastiest single unit in CC in the entire game and the crypteks make them not too shabby in shooting too.

Play an Apoc game with an army consisting of nothing but Royal Court Disco infernos, it's hilarious. The only really comparable unit in the game is a full draigostar, and your 2+ saves will be laughing at their force weapons all day long.

Oh, and fyi-

 Rezyn wrote:
The T6 and 9 wounds from spyders was sounding pretty enticing, but that 3++ on the lychguard could really help out when you ghost walk them into enemy territory.

The Lychguard would only have 4++ saves. Only Phase Shifters confer 3++ in the codex, and only HQ and Wraiths have it available.

The current build I'm working on is as follows:

3 Canoptek Spyders
Zahndrekh
Obyron
Orikan

I am switching the D.Lord for Orikan due to Orikan's tactical abilities associated with difficult terrain and reserves. Add in the fact he has a 3++ save, a weapon that rerolls to hits and ignores armor, and a beamer for a mini-jaws and he has more utility than the D.Lord's 2+ save. I have only played it a couple times now and it's working out very well, better than with the D.Lord actually because of Orikan's abilities. His Super Saiyan mode is nice but the star doesn't need it.

The only true wall that I've hit with it was my first game where I wanted to see just how good/bad it would do and went up against a unit of Deathwing Knights with Zeak and Belial. Loss all but the IC's but still did a number on the unit.

I thought the main reason you include a D.Lord with the Spyder-Star was to grant Preferred Enemy to the Spyders? (the 2+ is good, too, but Obyron already has it).

 skoffs wrote:
I thought the main reason you include a D.Lord with the Spyder-Star was to grant Preferred Enemy to the Spyders? (the 2+ is good, too, but Obyron already has it).

That is the primary reason yes. That and he's another T6 model so if someone snipes out a spyder you don't get immediately weakened.

For me though, Orikan's special rules and equipment (beyond hulking out) far outweight preferred enemy. It does slightly weaken the deathstar but provides better utility for your reserves and to slow down your opponent slightly on turn 1.

I can't find the list on here but someone had posted really cool "Wraithstar, not really" Necron army.

It was something like:

HQ

2 Necron Overlords on Command Barges w/ Warscythes and MSS

Royal Court
6 to 8 Crypteks Harbinger of Destructions or Harbingers of Storms.

Troops
Doubled up the crypteks and was
3-4 Units of Warriors in Ghost Arks

Fast Attack
6 Wraiths w/ Goodies
6 Wraiths w/ Goodies
Scarab Swarm ?

Fast Attack
Annihilation Barge
Annihilation Barge
Cryptek Spyders?

 Rezyn wrote:

Thud wrote:
Spyderstar.

Zandrek + Obyron + Destroyer Lord + 3 Tomb Spyders.

One of the guys from the 40k Global podcast has been running it with decent success, and you can get more details from listening to their podcast episodes from the Caledonian Uprising tournament (episodes 108, 109, and 110) at 40kglobal.com.

Awesome! Thanks for the info I will check that out for sure.

This type of death star is sort of what i was wanting to run. Seems like an interesting thing to try, especially since Obyron can ghostwalk the unit around the board.

For a shooty star i was considering this same type of deal but instead of 3 spyders I was going to include a royal court. 5 lords with the ap3 staves and some shooty crypteks. Seemed to fragile to be worth the points though. 18 shots at str 5 ap3 is nasty though, and thats before the crypteks shooting. could add 5 more shots at str8 ap2, or even the abyssal staffs for some ap1 templates.

Werner bron runs it, he has had some success with it. Check out his list on the torrent of fire page (I think in the invational article).

Same deathstar, different support units:

Rob Madeley
Necrons – 1850
HQ1: Nemessor Zhandrekh [185] (Warlord)
HQ2: Vargard Obyron [160]
HQ3: Destroyer Lord (125), Sempiternal Weave (15) – [140]
Troops1: 5 Necron Warriors [65] in Transport 1
Troops2: 5 Necron Warriors [65] in Transport 2
Troops3: 5 Necron Warriors [65] in Transport 3
Fast1: 5 Canoptek Wraiths [175]
Fast2: 5 Canoptek Wraiths [175]
Fast3: 5 Canoptek Wraiths [175]
Heavy1: Annihilation Barge [90]
Heavy2: Annihilation Barge [90]
Heavy3: 3 Canoptek Spyders (150), Gloom Prism (15) [165]
Transport1: Nightscythe [100]
Transport2: Nightscythe [100]
Transport3: Nightscythe [100]
Total: 1850

Werner Born
Necrons – 1850
HQ1: Nemessor Zhandrekh [185] (Warlord)
HQ2: Vargard Obyron [160]
HQ3: Destroyer Lord (125), Sempiternal Weave (15), MSS (20) – [160]
Troops1: 5 Necron Warriors [65] in Transport 1
Troops2: 5 Necron Warriors [65] in Transport 2
Troops3: 5 Necron Warriors [65] in Transport 3
Troops4: 5 Necron Warriors [65] in Transport 4
Troops5: 5 Necron Warriors [65] in Transport 5
Fast1: Canoptek Scarabs [90]
Heavy1: Annihilation Barge [90]
Heavy2: Annihilation Barge [90]
Heavy3: 3 Canoptek Spyders (150), Gloom Prism (15), Fabricator Claw Array (10) [175]
Transport1: Nightscythe [100]
Transport2: Nightscythe [100]
Transport3: Nightscythe [100]
Transport4: Nightscythe [100]
Transport5: Nightscythe [100]
Fortification: Skyshield Landing Pad [75]