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I'll give the situation. I have a Warhound protected by a Void Array. A DA libby w/ a PFG is sitting under him. Total void shields protecting him are 5, 3 from the array and 2 from himself. Something with haywire shoots a lot of shots at him. The person who I was playing against tried to argue that none of the void shields would be subject to the 4++. I countered that since the target was the warhound all of the shots should be part of the 4++. We eventually ended with just the two warhound shields since they libby was too far away from the arrays to give them their own 4++. Now it is an easy answer if we were talking D strength but this is for everything else.

So can an invul save (or cover in the case of the CFF) be applied thing like void shields?

Your opponent was correct.
The attack is transferred to the shield, so any save your Warhound gets does not apply.

 grendel083 wrote:
Your opponent was correct.
The attack is transferred to the shield, so any save your Warhound gets does not apply.

Yet would you include that on the shields generated by the warhound itself since it is the one generating those shields?

Taelon wrote:

 grendel083 wrote:
Your opponent was correct.
The attack is transferred to the shield, so any save your Warhound gets does not apply.

Yet would you include that on the shields generated by the warhound itself since it is the one generating those shields?

Again no, as the attack is no longer against the Warhound, but the shield instead.

But again, the shield is generated by the warhound. It is the warhounds shield should it not get the save since the source of the shield is within the range of the invul?

Void shields aren't units/models so they aren't covered by the PFG. Nothing else really applies

Void Shields are very unusual because of one fact:
They transfer the attack from a unit to the Special Rule itself.

This has caused a huge number of problems.....

I do agree the void shield not getting the save. If it transferred to the shield after rolling for penetrate I would say it works because the penetrate is against the warhound before it transfers. As a side note instead of that 4++ save on him, why not just have your warhounds fot in a crater for a 5+ cover save?

icefire78 wrote:
why not just have your warhounds fot in a crater for a 5+ cover save?

Because that crater would have to obscure 25% of the vehicle's facing.

Oh that's right I remember in the BRB it says any model in area terrain benefits from the cover save, but then in a different section it says vehicles have to be obscurred


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I always forget that it's in 2 seperate spots

Well, to be fair, that second spot is in the vehicle rules. The vehicle rules are there to tell you how vehicles are different from infantry(for whom the basic rules are written).