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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/04 03:57:34
Subject: 50 pt pButcher Melee Madness
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Hello all, I have for you 50 pts. of Khador for use in my local gaming store for friendly matches. The list is as follows: The Butcher of Khardov WJ+6 Berserker 6pts Behemoth 13pts War dog 1pts Great Bears of Gallowswood 5pts Iron Fang Pikemen (Leader and 9 Grunts) 8pts Winter Guard Infantry (Leader and 9 Grunts) 6pts Winter Guard Infantry Officer & Standard 2pts Iron Fang Kovnik 2pts Kovnik Jozef Grigorovich 2pts Doom Reavers 6pts Fenris 5pts Great Bears follow the Pikemen, the Iron Fang Kovnik making both units immune to knockdown when the Great Bear with Steady falls. Butcher uses the Winter Guard as a meat shield, while Joe keeps Tough and Fearless on them, their UA using Bob and Weave to push, then using Grape shot to thin enemy ranks. The Dog sticks to Butcher like glue. Berserker and Behemoth both go to Butcher. Since Berserker has Aggressive, I can keep Behemoth loaded on Focus. Also Berserker is extremely cheap, making him free with Butcher  Doom Reavers stay behind the Winter Guard as well, Fenris keeping Berserk off of them until they need it. My main goal is to keep the really shiny stuff behind buffed walls until they get within charge distance, Butcher pops his feat, and I slaughter everything. Any suggestions or constructive criticism is welcome.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/04/05 06:49:22
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/05 06:48:56
Subject: Re:50 pt pButcher Melee Madness
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At this point, i'm comfortable with most of the list. My only concern lies in how to spend six points. Not sure If It's better to keep the Berserker but lose the ability to make tough rolls AND ignore knockdowns on IFP, or get the IFP UA and Widowmakers but restrict the list to one bulky Warjack.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/05 18:06:22
Subject: 50 pt pButcher Melee Madness
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Vassal
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I wouldn't waste my time with the Berserker. It's only mat 5 and could blow up if you give it focus. Black dragon UA is great because it makes the unit fearless. Now you can hide the Reavers in amongst them.
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Building: Retribution of Scyrah
Playing: Warmachine: Retribution of Scyrah; Battletech Alfa Strike
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/05 19:20:37
Subject: 50 pt pButcher Melee Madness
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Drakhun
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True, but with only one warjack Butcher is missing out on the awesome spell that is full throttle. Now 'Zerker can charge for free and have boosted melee attacks without the risk of spontaneous cortex explosion.
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DS:90-S+G+++M++B-IPw40k03+D+A++/fWD-R++T(T)DM+
Warmachine MKIII record 39W/0D/6L
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/05 21:20:05
Subject: Re:50 pt pButcher Melee Madness
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Berserker can run and charge for free by default with the Aggressive rule, but boosted attacks are also nice  . I could drop Fenris and the Berserker, add the Doom Reavers UA so they get both Silence AND Tough, and a Juggernaut. The list would look like this:
The Butcher of Khardov WJ+6
Juggernaut 7pts
Behemoth 13pts
War dog 1pts
Great Bears of Gallowswood 5pts
Iron Fang Pikemen (Leader and 9 Grunts) 8pts
Winter Guard Infantry (Leader and 9 Grunts) 6pts
Winter Guard Infantry Officer & Standard 2pts
Iron Fang Kovnik 2pts
Black Dragon IFP Officer and Standard 2pts
Kovnik Jozef Grigorovich 2pts
Doom Reavers 6pts
Greylord Escort 2pts.
Now I have two beefy Jacks for Full Throttle, with no worry of it going boom. Totally forgot about Black Dragon UA, and their mini feat combined with Shield Wall gives them ARM of a heavy Warjack! I might switch pButcher with pVlad depending on what army i'm facing. Signs and Portents will be amazing with the Great Bears and Doom Reavers. I'd switch Behemoth and Juggernaut with Drago and Beast 09 in this list. Gotta run Drago with Vlad, and Beast 09's Thresher attack fits Vlad like a glove.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/05 21:45:13
Subject: 50 pt pButcher Melee Madness
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Drakhun
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Indeed they can but it can also slam and trample too.
I assume the IFK will run with the Black Dragons because he can make them move 8 inches a turn whilst retaining shield wall formation. WG deathstar is always good too, although it will be a contest between them and the iron fangs for which one deserves Iron Flesh.
Don't forget, butchers feat also applies to shooting. If you were still running the Bezerker you could use full throttle and his feat to headbutt something to the floor and then drop Big B Boosted Bombs on its head.
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DS:90-S+G+++M++B-IPw40k03+D+A++/fWD-R++T(T)DM+
Warmachine MKIII record 39W/0D/6L
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/05 23:35:47
Subject: Re:50 pt pButcher Melee Madness
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That's true, MAT 5 wouldn't be too much of a problem on 3 D6 with full throttle. Between the IFP critical hit and the Berserker's Chain Attack, that's a lot of potential knockdowns. I think i'll stick with the Greylord Escort instead of Fenris either way. I'd rather have the bonuses the IFP UA gives me and Tough on the Doom Reavers instead of him. I could add a Rocketeer with the remaining point. It has the Take Up rule, so I could keep swapping it out when the model dies, and an AOE to dissuade infantry approaching the Winter Guard.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/06 04:25:04
Subject: 50 pt pButcher Melee Madness
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Dakka Veteran
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You really want to waste 3 focus to cast full throttle when you have THE focus consuming vortex that is the Behemoth? The zerker in this list is best used as a throwaway shield for the behemoth/butcher. If you are casting it, then you will most likely have Iron flesh upkept and possibly fury, which will leave butcher with a whopping 1 focus to work with.
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71 pts khador - 6 war casters
41 pts merc highborn - 3 warcasters |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/06 15:30:14
Subject: Re:50 pt pButcher Melee Madness
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In that case i'll drop the Berserker altogether. I've got the Pikemen and Winterguard as screens/ tar pits, so I think the points are better spent on adding two more Rocketers to make a full WGDS and Widowmakers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/07 22:21:55
Subject: 50 pt pButcher Melee Madness
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Dakka Veteran
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Well at this point level, even khador should probably have a second jack to help deal with anti infantry casters. Feora's feat will consume over 50% of your army. Colossal eat infantry very quickly.
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71 pts khador - 6 war casters
41 pts merc highborn - 3 warcasters |
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