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Hi I just made an account so I can post a list to see how it fares, any CC is good for me


HQ
Tank commander
Pask
Punisher
Heavy bolter sponsons
Total 230

Vanquisher
Heavy bolter sponsons
Total 155

Vanquisher
Heavy bolter sponsons
Total 155

Lord commissar 70

Troops
Veterans
Melta x2
Taurox
Total 130

Veterans
Melta x2
Taurox
Total 130

PCS
PIS x2
lascannonx2
Total 170

Fast attack
Vendetta 170
Vendetta 170


Heavy support
Wyvern
Camo
Total 80

Wyvern
Camo
Total 80

Wyvern
Total 65

Elites

Bullgryns x5
Total 235


That leaves me with 175 to play around with, possibly more vets or a psyker,
I will have the wyverns hopefully in some ruins with the bulls in front of them giving them 2+ cover and the punishers mowing down anything and the vendettas mostly for air control, as this is my first list with the new dex anything is appreciated

Love those punishers- troops hate em
Im kinda on the fence as far as wyverns go, I kinda feel like they'd be better off replaced with something else
I'd also suggest dropping the bullgryns for something else if you're looking for competitive play but if you're just out for fun; They are really cool.
And with the points you've got left, I''d get as many troops as you can as it seems that you don't have enough

I think the wyverns are quite nice. 65 points for 4 s4 blasts that reroll to hit and to wound? also i believe there rending...
And the bullgryn+camonetted tank trick is a dirty and cool one. 2+ cover ftw!!!

Welcome to Dakka!

One thing I've noticed is that this list seems a bit lacking in anti-tank, outside of the short-range melta. What I'd do to remedy this is make the non-Pask punishers into Vanquishers with LC and PC. That way, you can make use of the split-fire order to hpefully waste a tank and an infantry squad in the same turn. For extra nastiness, add an Enginseer in one of the Chimeras to hand out POTMS, and hit 3 different targets with the Tank squadron!

I'd suggest maybe swapping out the bullgryn for an ADL, as it means you don't have to rely on getting ruins and always have a 3+ cover. You also save a lot of points.

With any points you have left, I'd add an infantry platoon of 20-30 guys and a Commissar, give them Lascannons and put them back with the Wyverns. This adds more scoring power, extra long-range anti-tank and more bodies, as well as getting even more of a benefit from the ADL.

Heavy Support and Fast attack are fine.

Hope that helps.

Thanks for the feed back, I'll need to go home and work out points cuz I cant really bring my dex to work. But it seems that I should drop the punishers and add vanquishers or eradicators and with dropping the bullgryns I can add the platoon with a priest or commissar maybe fit in another tank

Here's my advice starting at the top.

Pask in Punisher is 230 points. You get 29 Bs4 S5 shots. Lets just say you're shooting MEQs out of cover and then we'll do Orks in cover:

20 S5 shots with PE 15.5 hits 3.02 rends and 9.03 wounds resulting in another 3.02 kills
9 S5 shots means 7 hits 5.4 wounds 1.8 kills

Just shy of 8 Dead marines, 3 Wyverns twin linked shouod average about 3 hits per template so 36 hits 27 wounds after rerolls and 9 dead marines for 195 points. Against the Orks Pask (we'll assume 5+ cover from say a KFF) manages just 11.63 kills to the Wyverns 27. Yes I know you get utility from Pask as he can kill vehicles too and a Primaris makes the unit good AA except against AV12 flyers (like all the best flyers are). But overall if you want volume fire take the Wyvern. Pask makes Vanquishers and Executioners crazy good if you're taking him that's where he wants to be.

Chimeras are very meh now. For the same points you could get Taurox with camo. Now you have some more ranged AT in the form of twin linked autocannons and they can also abuse the Bullgryns rule with a Guaranteed 3+ cover without ruins. Or just keep it cheap. Also as you have only 2 troops choices you don't want to voluntarily get out of your ride so the 3rd special weapon isn't necessary (though not bad to take just not needed).

Vendettas are good but at the moment are your only ranged AT and could not turn up until turn 4. Get them some support (like giving Pask a Vanquisher as mentioned above).

Wyverns are a Volume fire unit. I'd take more. Two pairs would be a minimum fir this list though two triples would be best. Give the lead tank camo get an Aegis and Techpriest and you can fix HPs whilst having that 2+ cover at the front.

Ogryns need a Priest always. Not only is Hatred very useful but their terrible leadership means Fearless is necessary if you want that cover boost to stick around. For only 25 points it is a no brainer.

Ok, so I changed the list now, two Vanqs with pask's punisher (I still find I can kill about 7-13 marines with him in the punisher but if it makes it more competetive then I can change his tank), traded chimaeras for tauroxs added a platoon with two squads and lascannons with a lord commissar to help with leadership and that maxes out points