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Lead-Footed Trukkboy Driver




Elizabethtown College

Id like to start a conversation about how the new IG book and Imperial Knights (if allowed) will affect the meta.

Do you guys think IG and Knights have large enough impact to shift the competitive meta way from the current Deathstar armies?
Or do you think Deathstars will just adapt and still dominate?

I think the new IG and resurregence of tanks will change things. However IG also now can boast some serious pyschic power, opening the door for more Death star type combinations.

Those are my thoughts, very obvious and pretty vague but maybe kt will get the ball rolling!

I always press dat, if you know what I mean. 
   
Made in gb
Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?





UK

IG will bring a few things:

- AV14 en masse. Cheaper and better Russes may well see you facing 5+ AV14 hulls alongside everything else.

- They are the first army that can hypothetically give any unit Pinning or Precision Shots, so low Ld units and 'hidden' weapons had better watch out.

- Allied detachments can now bring multiple Russ squadrons in HQ and HS.

- Blobs may be seen as more than defensive tools again, with Priests and Psykers upping their damage output and leadership-resilience.

 
   
Made in gb
Regular Dakkanaut




Leeds, England

I don't think guard really changed much other than mech armies becoming slightly less shooty and blobs becoming a little more dangerous. Guard have always had a gun suited for any task and deathstars were no different. Personally I believe the gw developed the deathstrike for this but I've always found the proper application of demolisher cannon to deal with most deathstar units quite nicely.

Statistically, you will almost certainly die when assaulting a well-maintained fortress with a competent commander. You must strive to make your death useful.

Your foe is well equipped, well-trained, battle-hardened. He believes his gods are on his side. Let him believe what he will. We have the tanks on ours.

I hate last stands, there's never time to practise them - Major Rawne - Tanith First  
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut




There may be a rise of av14+ ally taken by other armies.
Pesk is going to be in all AM armies and many ally sections.
We have yet to see AM formations , so not everything is clear , if some bad stuff doesn't end up good. For example a hydra formation that gains interceptor , or some buff to wyverns dmg on non gaunt level targets.
   
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Prophetic Blood Angel Librarian




It is now ridiculously easy to give a knight perfect timing and prescience without having to fork out for tigurius and an ultramarine detachment.
If people start combining knights with the new guard mech, it could shift metas back to more high strength guns, especially if they are protected from melta by stupidly cheap conscripts.
Watching people trying to make target priorities between a pask punisher, a knight, vanquishers, manticores, death strikes, and maybe an allied in vindicator will be hilarious to watch... the impossible may even happen and you may have a vindi surviving until end game!
   
 
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