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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/18 02:49:26
Subject: We are the knights who say.....coteaz?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Indiana
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So I am going to have a third knight for another month or so and figured I would get some fun times in with it so here is my 1850 list. Until the lancer comes out(which will be my third knight....saving mah tax return for it)
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Paladin
Paladin
Coteaz
Xenos Book, servo skulls, lvl 1, rad grenades
3x3 acolytes
White Scars
Chaptermaster, bike, shield eternal, auspex, thunderhammer
5x bikes gravguns and combi grav
Thunderfire Cannon.
I think this will be pretty interesting to play. If I can convert up a coteaz in time I will be trying this list on saturday. Any thoughts?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/18 02:57:55
Subject: We are the knights who say.....coteaz?
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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isnt acolytes are too fragile?
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Mordant 92nd 'Acid Dogs'
The Lost and Damned
Inquisition
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/18 06:16:21
Subject: We are the knights who say.....coteaz?
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Disguised Speculo
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I think this will be pretty interesting to play
Yep, I'm sure one of the players will be interested.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/18 12:22:35
Subject: We are the knights who say.....coteaz?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Indiana
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The acolytes sit in reserve unit late game to grab my sides objectives.
In reality with this list the game would mostly be decided by turn two or three.
With three scoring knights and a tanked bike squad it should not be too hard to keep something alive for objectives. In addition the inquisitor and coteaz will join them first turn to give them scout and then either I will have a tail behind to keep them in the unit or they will break off and buff the knights.
As for the other guys comment. It is a potential tournament list. Not a casual lists
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/04/18 12:23:17
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/18 12:29:23
Subject: Re:We are the knights who say.....coteaz?
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Jovial Junkatrukk Driver
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People will hate you.
Also i suggest taking a deep strike/artilery unit just incase your enemy brings AT in larger numbers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/18 13:26:53
Subject: We are the knights who say.....coteaz?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Indiana
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Out of curiosity what would make people hate me?
I am facing off against taudar ovesa star flying monsterous creature spam etc.
Also I have an artillery unit in the thunderfire cannon.
Once again, this is not a list for casual play. This is for tournaments. I just went to adepticon and my biker army was basically shutdown by 34 point servo skulls with beast and ovesa star everywhere.
So time to try a new tactic
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/04/18 13:28:29
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/18 16:03:36
Subject: We are the knights who say.....coteaz?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
United States of America
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If you play vs those competitive lists, your knights will be pointless as FMC will vector you to death, taudar depending on the list can either kill all your knights by turn 2/3 or fail horribly, and ovesastar has enough fusion to toast them knights up.
Now I haven't forgotten about the hydras, and I haven't read the new IG codex through, but if they are like they were in 5th ed with no interceptor and JUST skyfire don't expect them to do a whole lot other then shoot down 1 flyer.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/18 16:41:14
Subject: We are the knights who say.....coteaz?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Cheyenne WY
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Leth wrote:So I am going to have a third knight for another month or so and figured I would get some fun times in with it so here is my 1850 list. Until the lancer comes out(which will be my third knight....saving mah tax return for it)
Errant
Paladin
Paladin
Coteaz
Xenos Book, servo skulls, lvl 1, rad grenades
3x3 acolytes
White Scars
Chaptermaster, bike, shield eternal, auspex, thunderhammer
5x bikes gravguns and combi grav
Thunderfire Cannon.
I think this will be pretty interesting to play. If I can convert up a coteaz in time I will be trying this list on saturday. Any thoughts?
Looks kinda cool, but how do you handle Fliers? Maybe Coteaz in a fort of some kind, with a Quad gun? Extra because Fliers are the best counter to IK, and the like....
It looks like a list that is built to only be beat in one way...but if that one way shows...
Late entry: I think I'd attempt to keep a white scars army, and add in a IK or two as a deathstar counter, and see how that works
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/18 16:59:03
Subject: We are the knights who say.....coteaz?
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Angered Reaver Arena Champion
Connah's Quay, North Wales
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Agreed, you cannot counter fliers. Like...at all. That Flying Circus you mentioned would jump all over this list, doubly so if it includes Be'Lakor as your own Melta Knight would be dropping that large blast on your own models. Honestly, you can maybe ground a single Prince a turn, not even that if Fatey uses re-roll. Then all he needs to do is fly around, kill everything that isn't a knight then pick away at them until the Acolytes come in, then he will kill them to.
If your trying to play Rock Paper Scissors that's fine, but just remember you are rock, any one who brought scissors won't have a fun game against you because they didn't bring enough AV and any one who is Paper you won;t have a fun game against due to lack of AA.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/18 17:21:58
Subject: We are the knights who say.....coteaz?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Indiana
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Yep, I recognize that fliers might be a problem, but worst case I twin-link the errants for the stubbers so 6 shots twin-linked would give me a grounding check. As well as the bikes have twin-linked bolters.
Outside of stormravens and vendettas I am not really worried about most flying vehicles even then I just would have to play the waiting game and play for objectives since I could remove most of the stuff on the table pretty quickly.
However you are correct in that I need to find a way to deal with fliers. Perhaps drop thunderfire for aegis with quadgun?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/18 19:55:01
Subject: We are the knights who say.....coteaz?
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Angered Reaver Arena Champion
Connah's Quay, North Wales
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I'd say you should main Marines with Inquisition allies and have the Knights as the extras. Playing Knights Primary leaves you open to lose to so much, while yes you will ROFL stomp just as much, it is very, very hard to have an TAC Knight list. Use them to augment a TAC list rather then playing rock paper scissors, you will enjoy it more.
If you indeed play this list you will be forcing around 4 grounding checks on a single prince, with Fatey's re-roll there is a 50/50 chance he stays in the air. And honestly a Quad Gun won't be enough, as you have no unit hard enough to not be instantly wiped off of it. Corteaz may have a 2+ save, but he is T 3 with no Invul, how many scatter lasers do you think he can tank?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/19 03:50:06
Subject: We are the knights who say.....coteaz?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Indiana
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First off, I appreciate the feedback.
Coteaz and the Inq will start attached to the bikes to give them buffs and scout first turn,
Second turn my knights and bikes will be assaulting. So if they are willing to dedicate an entire units fire to the inquisitors(without a guarantee of killing them) I am okay with that.
As to taking knights as secondary its missing out on the awesome scoring potential and the knight scenechal.
It is just so hard to bring an all comers that covers all bases. Other than FMCs I have all of my bases covered. In that case I think I will just have to do my best.
I probably wont get to play it ever but I figured it could be fun to playtest/get exposure to knights
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/19 05:07:07
Subject: We are the knights who say.....coteaz?
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Raging Ravener
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In my stock standard IG 1850pt list I'll take 3 Vendettas Minimum, but despite the mass of flyers you'll have your shields, and as fast as even dettas are, they can only turn before they move forward, unless they want to hover so finding your weak spots will be risky... All in all its a pretty fun list for killing and dodging about, Also short turns hehe... But with the amount of objective games you could get outnumbered and beat despite causing heavy casualties...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/19 05:59:12
Subject: We are the knights who say.....coteaz?
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Disguised Speculo
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Once again, this is not a list for casual play. This is for tournaments. I just went to adepticon and my biker army was basically shutdown by 34 point servo skulls with beast and ovesa star everywhere.
Yeesh. I'm sorry for the comment earlier, though you did use the words "fun times" and "interesting" in the OP - not stuff that usually appears alongside "competitive"
If they're gonna use those fething skulls, give them hell, because they absolutely deserve it.
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