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For my birthday, i recieved an Anaconda tag, and ive been trying to build a list that includes it, and been finding it a little tricky. Heres what ive come up with so far, any feedback or alternative ideas would be very helpful.

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ANACONDA Spitfire + Light Flamethrower, Panzerfaust / CCW. (2 | 62)
OPERATOR Spitfire / Pistol, Knife.
CHASSEUR (Forward Observer) Rifle, Light Flamethrower, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (22)
CHASSEUR (Forward Observer) Rifle, Light Flamethrower, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (22)
CHASSEUR (Forward Observer) Rifle, Light Flamethrower, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (22)
BRISCARD Lieutenant Marksman Rifle / Assault Pistol, Knife. (24)
BRISCARD Marksman Rifle / Assault Pistol, Knife. (24)
BRISCARD (Forward Observer) Marksman Rifle / Assault Pistol, Knife. (27)
BRISCARD Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 27)
BRISCARD Heavy Rocket Launcher / Assault Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 34)
MOBLOT HMG / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 36)

6 SWC | 300 Points

Open with Army 4

Some suggestions already were to change the Moblot to a HMG one, would the Caledonian Mormaer HMG i already have work as a proxy? Cos then id only need to buy the Briscards. Someone also said swap the FO Briscard for a normal one to hide the liutenant but i was trying to get an extra specialist in there.

thanks for looking

I'd keep the fo briscard, need some sort of specialist in the link. I would probably take a hmg paracommando over the hmg moblot. The moblot isn't much tougher than the commando and the ad1 is always a nice option to have. The cost is relatively similar, with the .5SWC freed up I'd make one chassuer a minelayer.

Ugh I hate the HMG para commando model

Haha, I find that agreeable. But like most things in infinity, it kinda grows on you.

I don't have anything constructive to say on the list (I leave that to the more experienced players) but I will say nice choice on the Anaconda Beautiful model, I want to buy one up just to paint and use the pilot as a proxy for the Geckos.

Trying to find proxies/conversion ideas for the HMG pc, any ideas? And NuclearMessiah, I agree, it's lovely one of the best tags, with the iguana

ImAGeek wrote:
Trying to find proxies/conversion ideas for the HMG pc, any ideas? And NuclearMessiah, I agree, it's lovely one of the best tags, with the iguana

Have you checked out Hasslefree Minatures yet, they have models that fit the Ariadna look pretty well, might find something.

I just checked out the HMG model. Most of what I don't like about it is the head (between the face and the bike helmet it just looks bad). With that in mind maybe you can jimmy something else on there. It looks like this has some possibilities assuming the scale lines up. There's lots of other heads on there too if you want.

http://www.pig-iron-productions.com/hd25-boonie-hats-p-86.html

Also I just looked up the Anaconda. That is one nice looking piece of equipment. Completely aside from the absolutely awesome model I'd use it just for the juvenile entertainment factor I would get from saying "hey, have you seen my anaconda?" when I use it in a game (yep, pinnacle of maturity right there).

Hasslefree's modern troopers would make great chasseur or paracommando proxies, IMO. You also might try decapitating the paracommando, buying the Spec-Ops, and using whichever head you have left over.

Could head over to shae konnit and see if you can grab van-zant and a spec ops hmg and chuck then together.

http://www.infinitythegame.com/infinity/en/2011/miniatures/van-zant/

If you did go with hasslefree, I'd be interested to see some pictures as I've never seen them alongside infinity models. I've always had the impression that they are more stocky. Like the short side of the 28mm range whereas infinity is on the tall end.

Or failing that get a dozer and a katyusha traktor mul. Comes out to 36pts and with the bunch of FOs you have would work quite well.

In reality there are many things that will work decently and change the way in which it is played quite significantly. Without the uragan the FOs will solely be going for objectives, with maybe the odd flash pulse here and there but thats a bit gimmicky. The main offence will be from the TAG and PC (if you go that route). But with the Katyusha the FOs will be using markers quite a bit for it. This will compete a bit for orders with the anaconda over the course of the game, whereas the PC will most likely come out blazing then die and only consume orders for 1 turn til he's ARO'd. However competing for orders isn't that bad as it gives you options for what to do each turn. One noteworthy advantage of Ariadna is that they cannot be hacked, I dont really fear guided missiles as I can generally ARO hack them, with Traktor muls I cant so.... bleh sucks for me, good for you.

Being the sort of person I am, I'd probably go for both the PC and the Mul as then you can interchange them between games as the great thing about infinity is the suspense of what's going to happen next. And not knowing what you're opponent is going to bring makes it much more interesting. But then I've got spektrs, prowlers and intruders which are the bomb so I'm always interchanging them.

I'm not massively keen on hassle free miniatures to be honest. I'll see about using van zant or just converting something, or even just using the stock model for now. I might get the Traktor Mul too, probably a bit further down the line

I assume the anaconda can still be hacked?

And yeah it is mainly the head on the para commando. If the scale fits the gas mask spec ops head might be cool.

To my knowledge it is hackable, not a huge amount you can do about it though. Are there any archaic tags out there? I can't think of any

ImAGeek wrote:
I'm not massively keen on hassle free miniatures to be honest. I'll see about using van zant or just converting something, or even just using the stock model for now. I might get the Traktor Mul too, probably a bit further down the line

I assume the anaconda can still be hacked?

And yeah it is mainly the head on the para commando. If the scale fits the gas mask spec ops head might be cool.

Only thing you can do is, if your using Spec Ops is build a defensive hacker to guard it.

I don't fully get how the spec ops rules work. Can I use them in any game/ITS missions etc?

For ITS if they allow it it will have an XP limit (usually 12 I think) for friendly games it is really between you and your mates.

 NuclearMessiah wrote:
For ITS if they allow it it will have an XP limit (usually 12 I think) for friendly games it is really between you and your mates.

Apparently in campaign paradiso they have a system to gain xp over multiple battles which you can use either on army wide benefits (not so clear on this since I haven't read the rules. apparently you can bring more points to a game than its "official" limit by spending xp or something like that) or to tack special abilities on your spec ops. That is the book you have to physically buy since they don't provide those rules for download. Unfortunately the campaign system is pretty welded to their individual mission track, so if you wanted to adapt it to other things you'd basically need to make up all new missions as you go. That said, from a battle report I've seen, the missions in the book are actually really cool so it could be worth buying it simply as a book of missions for your friends to play.

That's the complicated answer. The answer most people would probably use is something like "for this tournament you are allowed to take a spec ops trooper and spend 12 xp on it." I know that one week (and one week only, not even the last week for some bizarre reason) of the Escalation League rules specifically says you can take a spec-ops model with 12 exp.

Ah okay thank you I dunno how were playing it yet but I'll remember that

MRRF has access to the Alguaciles Hacker. It's not the best hacker in the world, but at least it's something.

If you're debating whether or not to pay the points for it. The Anaconda has -6 BTS so it's a question of if you want to let your opponent take unopposed -6 modified rolls to hack it or unmodified FtF rolls against the Alguaciles. Also remember a hacker can only attempt to hack a TAG once per player turn.

The FtF is probably the safer bet, unless your running into lists with a high BTS hacker ( -6 BTS) or more than one. Then they're going to blow past the Alguaciles. If your local meta doesn't have that many hackers you can should be able to get away with not taking it. Kind of meh for getting Data Scan, the hacker Classified Obj., since it's the only one with a -3 modifier to score.

If you're concerned about ITS play, I would diversify your specialists out from just FOs.

Well I haven't played at all yet, so I don't know if we're playing ITS or what the local meta is like or anything like that :/

Play a few games then, see what works for you.

If you do end up playing ITS, you have enough infiltrating specialists to quickly run on objectives. Classified objectives, which is what you need diverse specialist for, make up a small percentage of the mission objective points. Worst case you're giving up 2 points out of possible max of 10 obj. points. The points tend not to be deal breakers unless the game is close.

If you're not playing ITS, having all those FO isn't really a waste of points since Flash Pulse is a really annoying ability.

What are classified objectives? So FO work for all the normal objectives in the ITS missions? Okay

In ITS there are mission objectives which are common knowledge between you and your opponent and change depending on the scenario. These can be scored by any specialists: FO, Chain of Command, Engineers, Hackers, Paramedics and Doctors. (There is one scenario where Medics and Doctors don't count). Then there are classified objectives which are rolled for on a chart so are different every game and are hidden from your opponent.

Before deployment, you roll 2 D20s on the Classified Obj. Charts, and pick one of the rolls. Then you do the same thing for the second Classified objective. The rub is only certain specialists can score certain classifieds, for example only FO can score the Telemetry obj. and only Doctors/Paramedics can score the Experimental Drugs. They tend to be fairly easy to achieve hence the low amount of points you get since some of the Classified obj. are actions the model might carry out in their normal duties. Take the Experimental Drugs, which requires a Doctor/Paramedic to heal a model which they want to do anyways.

The two main reasons people will recommend diverse specialists is to insulate against poor rolls on the chart. The other reason is it makes it harder for your opponent to guess your Classifieds.

If you want to read more here's the link to the ITS scenarios .pdf: http://www.infinitythegame.com/infinity/downloads/its/%5Ben%5DScenarios%202014.pdf

Ah okay I see, thank you so if I did just take FO and rolled experimental drugs, I wouldn't be missing out on too many points that I'd effectively hobbled myself?

If you take a look at the bottom of that link 4rgfvsw6p posted there's the requirements for the classifieds. Just not having a doctor isnt that bad, but currently out of the 6 classifieds, you could only complete 2. Depending on the mission each player has one or two classifieds worth 1 or 2 points. So they're reasonably significant but I wouldn't fret over it

Ah okay. I think we'll probably start off just doing like 'kill everything' missions so it's not really a problem for now