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Hello Dakka,

Got a friendly escalation game coming up with some friends. Wanted thoughts on the starter 500 point list for some CSM. I want a decent competitive list but also kinda fun. Below is current list. I was also considering dropping the CSM to a 5 man squad and changing the spell familiar out for the Balestar of Mannon for Divination. Anyways let me thoughts and ideas.

HQ: 160

Sorcerer on Bike
MoS
Lvl 3 Psyker
Spell Familiar

Troops: 143

10 Cultists
6 CSM with a Flamer

Fast Attack: 121
3 Bikers
MoS
Icon of Excess
1 Meltagun

Heavy Support: 76
1x Obliterator
MoN

Don't use MoS on sorc. The powers are meh and the points can be used elsewhere. Probably a combi-weapon on a csm sarge or another csm. If you also drop spell familliar you'll be able to field another biker with melta.


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Don't get a flamer on guyz without a rhino.

What i'd do for a 500 pt game with what you got:

Sorcerror [ML2, Bike] - 105 pts
4 CSM [flamer] + Champ [combi-plazma] + Rhino - 125 pts
9 cultists + Champ - 50 pts
3 Bikers [1 meltagun, MoS, IoE] + Champ [MoS] - 143 pts
1 Obliterator [MoN] - 76 pts

499 Total.

Another option is to drop MoS + IoE on bikers. That's a 40+ point discount. FNP is nice but when the unit's so tiny, i'd prefer extra biker to be hones. Icon is possible to snipe out. For this points you can get another biker and another mastery level that you can throw into biomancy in hopes of geting FnP there. Biomancy has other good things like enfeeble and buffs for sorc's mellee. That's up to you ofc.

What i can definitely tell you is that if you're taking CSM, they need a rhino to do something useful. Ideally, for me it's a unit of 10 with 2 plasmas + combi-plazma but for 500 pts a squad of 5 will do.

Alright so revised list below. I got rid of the MoS and icons as you suggested and got another biker and kept the sorc lvl 3 with familiar. Also gave the CSM a rhino for the added mobility. So far the familiar has always helped a ton for lvl 3 psyker so I wanted to keep it. I like where it is headed now.


HQ: 145

Sorcerer on Bike
Lvl 3 Psyker
Spell Familiar

Troops: 175

10 Cultists
5 CSM with a Flamer w Rhino

Fast Attack: 100
4 Bikers
1 Meltagun

Heavy Support: 76
1x Obliterator
MoN