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thinking about which army to do next for my 1k of every army project.

Got my Tau and Guard nailed down. Now looking at Crons.

Don't want flyer spam but had a think and came up with this. please let me know what you think.

HQ
Destroyer Lord- MSS, 2+ armour- 160

5 Immortals- Tesla- 85
5 Immortals- Tesla- 85
5 Immortals- Tesla- 85

6 Wraiths- 2 Whip Coils- 230
5 Scarab Swarms- 75

2 Tomb Spyders- 100
Annihilation Barge- 90
Annihilation Barge- 90

= 1000

Foot slogging is a slow way to die even for Immortals.
The Night Scythes are too good to be left out.

 wuestenfux wrote:
Foot slogging is a slow way to die even for Immortals.
The Night Scythes are too good to be left out.

Ok, what would you suggest?

 mixer86 wrote:

 wuestenfux wrote:
Foot slogging is a slow way to die even for Immortals.
The Night Scythes are too good to be left out.

Ok, what would you suggest?

Okay. Here you go:

Destroyer Lord- MSS, 2+ armour- 160

5 Immortals- Tesla- 85
Night Scythe - 100
5 Immortals- Tesla- 85
Night Scythe - 100
6 Warriors - 78

6 Wraiths- 210

Annihilation Barge- 90
Annihilation Barge- 90

Total: 998 pts.

I'll second that list edit.

If you're only ever gonna get 1000 points in Necrons, the best units in the codex are Destroyer Lord, Wraiths, Annihilation Barges, and Night Scythes

I'd be inclined to take Warriors over Immortals, but YMMV

Thanks for the posts guys.

How about this

Des Lord, MSS, Weave- 160

6 warriors, Nightscythe- 178
6 warriors, Nightscythe- 178

5 Wraiths, 2 Whip Coils- 195
4 Scarab Swarms- 60

Tomb Spyder- 50
Annihilation Barge- 90
Annihilation Barge- 90

=1001

was thinking about converting a spyder from the spare wraith plus the spyder and swarms bring a useful and possibly overlooked AT weapon to the board.

Looks good to me...think about Warriors vs. Immortals though...if you face alot of AP4, the Immortals are worth the upgrade. If you're facing alot of AP3, they are not worth the upgrade IMO.

If you play Escalation, be aware that the Scarabs do not work on Super Heavy vehicles.

 jasper76 wrote:
Looks good to me...think about Warriors vs. Immortals though...if you face alot of AP4, the Immortals are worth the upgrade. If you're facing alot of AP3, they are not worth the upgrade IMO.

If you play Escalation, be aware that the Scarabs do not work on Super Heavy vehicles.

cheers.

i see what you mean but tbh the way i'd play the troops they'll spend as much time as possible in the flyers. only getting out to claim objectives late game so the armour difference is negligible.

and thankfully lords of war is not something i'll see. especially as i plan to keep it small.

Can you find 50 pts anywherefor 2 Crypteks w/ Voltaic ---> 1 for each of the Scythes warriors would just wreck vehicles and 4 shots at 5 str is also good vs inf.

I might rather those 2 Crypteks over an anni barge then you'd still have 40 pts left.

 mixer86 wrote:
Thanks for the posts guys.

How about this

Des Lord, MSS, Weave- 160

6 warriors, Nightscythe- 178
6 warriors, Nightscythe- 178

5 Wraiths, 2 Whip Coils- 195
4 Scarab Swarms- 60

Tomb Spyder- 50
Annihilation Barge- 90
Annihilation Barge- 90

=1001

was thinking about converting a spyder from the spare wraith plus the spyder and swarms bring a useful and possibly overlooked AT weapon to the board.

Too less scoring units.

Really?

2 troops I find is more than enough at 1k in my meta.

many only take 2-3 at 1750.

I'd almost be tempted to take a third barge, they are so amazing

unfassbarnathan wrote:
I'd almost be tempted to take a third barge, they are so amazing

a very valid suggestion, but at 1k 2 is very good, 3 would be down right filthy.

 Mythra wrote:
Can you find 50 pts anywherefor 2 Crypteks w/ Voltaic ---> 1 for each of the Scythes warriors would just wreck vehicles and 4 shots at 5 str is also good vs inf.

Good advice. If you're facing alot of heavy armor, these guys are the golden ticket. I don't know if I'd ditch an AB for them...I'd be inclined to ditch the Spyder and Scarabs, and spend the extra 60 on more troops....just a thought.

Is it the Cryptek has the haywire weapon?

If so, what about this?

Des Lord- MSS, Weave

6 Warriors, Cryptek, scythe
6 Warriors, Cryptek, scythe

6 Wraiths- 2 Whip Coils

2 A. Barges

leaves 24 points. any suggestions?

There's not a whole lot you can do with 24 points.

I'd probably go 1 more Warrior and another set of Whip Coils for one of your Wraiths.

Or, you could go buy your Destroyer Lord something nice.

 jasper76 wrote:
There's not a whole lot you can do with 24 points.

I'd probably go 1 more Warrior and another set of Whip Coils for one of your Wraiths.

Or, you could go buy your Destroyer Lord something nice.

i was thinking more whip coils but perhaps something nice for the lord would be better.

Res Orb? or any other suggestions?

Thanks for all the help so far btw.

 mixer86 wrote:

 jasper76 wrote:
There's not a whole lot you can do with 24 points.

I'd probably go 1 more Warrior and another set of Whip Coils for one of your Wraiths.

Or, you could go buy your Destroyer Lord something nice.

i was thinking more whip coils but perhaps something nice for the lord would be better.

Res Orb? or any other suggestions?

Thanks for all the help so far btw.

No problem at all.

I personally would use 24 points on 1 more Warrior and another set of Whip Coils.

But if you do want to kit out your DLord more with the extra points, yeah, Res Orb will give him a 50% chance to come back (and also for your Warriors, if he goes along with them), so its a good option...that would put you 6 points over budget though, right? So make sure this isnt a big deal for you or the people you play with if you go that route.

P.S. I think Warriors come in boxes of 12...I'm not sure 1 more Warrior is worth $33 or whatever it is, so if you don't want to spend the extra $$ to get 1 more Warrior for your list, I'd either go with a Whip Coil & some Pistols for the Wraiths, or go get that Res Orb for the DLord.

 jasper76 wrote:

 mixer86 wrote:

 jasper76 wrote:
There's not a whole lot you can do with 24 points.

I'd probably go 1 more Warrior and another set of Whip Coils for one of your Wraiths.

Or, you could go buy your Destroyer Lord something nice.

i was thinking more whip coils but perhaps something nice for the lord would be better.

Res Orb? or any other suggestions?

Thanks for all the help so far btw.

No problem at all.

I personally would use 24 points on 1 more Warrior and another set of Whip Coils.

But if you do want to kit out your DLord more with the extra points, yeah, Res Orb will give him a 50% chance to come back (and also for your Warriors, if he goes along with them), so its a good option...that would put you 6 points over budget though, right? So make sure this isnt a big deal for you or the people you play with if you go that route.

P.S. I think Warriors come in boxes of 12...I'm not sure 1 more Warrior is worth $33 or whatever it is, so if you don't want to spend the extra $$ to get 1 more Warrior for your list, I'd either go with a Whip Coil & some Pistols for the Wraiths, or go get that Res Orb for the DLord.

Exactly my thinking. i am not buy another 12 man box to get 1 guy.

didn't realise the orb was that many points, he'll be going with the wraiths so bit pointless really.

my area is fine with 1-2 points over so lets say its 25 points i have.

i figured without looking that the lord wants to keep his warscythe so no gucci weapons. anything other options? otherwise i'll just go with wraith gear.

Yeah...the Warscythe is the best CC weapon in the Codex by far (one of the best in the game, actually), so you don' wanna get rid of that.

You really dont have any options codex-wise with this list except for extra Warrior bodies...or you could add another Stormtek, but IMO that's Haywire overkill for a 1000 point game.

So after that I think its just wargear options for your DLord or Wraiths.

So you gotta decide between a Res Orb (its not so much pointless, it can still keep your DLord alive) or Some whips and guns for your Wraiths.

IIRC, the pistols are only 5 points...they're not so great weapons, but at least they're cheap, and they do add some Overwatch and will give that unit some shots.

So maybe 3 pistols and 1 more set of Whip Coils.

On the off chance that you don't know this, when you run your Wraiths, but the Whip Coils in the back behind a meatshield so they don't get popped off first,

 jasper76 wrote:
Yeah...the Warscythe is the best CC weapon in the Codex by far (one of the best in the game, actually), so you don' wanna get rid of that.

You really dont have any options codex-wise with this list except for extra Warrior bodies...or you could add another Stormtek, but IMO that's Haywire overkill for a 1000 point game.

So after that I think its just wargear options for your DLord or Wraiths.

So you gotta decide between a Res Orb (its not so much pointless, it can still keep your DLord alive) or Some whips and guns for your Wraiths.

IIRC, the pistols are only 5 points...they're not so great weapons, but at least they're cheap, and they do add some Overwatch and will give that unit some shots.

So maybe 3 pistols and 1 more set of Whip Coils.

On the off chance that you don't know this, when you run your Wraiths, but the Whip Coils in the back behind a meatshield so they don't get popped off first,

Last revision then:


Post 2014/04/30 11:22:56 Subject: Re:Necron 1k list. Is it any good?
Is it the Cryptek has the haywire weapon?

If so, what about this?

Des Lord- MSS, Weave

6 Warriors, Cryptek, scythe
6 Warriors, Cryptek, scythe

6 Wraiths- 3 Whip Coils, 3 casters

2 A. Barges

=1001

I like it for a 1000 point list...if you're good with 2 scoring units, than you're good to go IMO.

If you find in time you need another scoring unit, you should be able to find another 5+ warriors on ebay for cheapish


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P.S. If you're money conscious or dont like finecast, the Annihilation Barges come with an Overlord model, which can be converted into a Cryptek (just find a couple Deathmark heads to get the one-eye thing)

Also, the Annihilation Barge kit is modeled in such a way that you dont have to glue on the big TL Tesla Gun...so you can swap it in and out between Annihilation and Catacomb Command Barges.


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 mixer86 wrote:
Is it the Cryptek has the haywire weapon?

I don't think you got an answer to this. Yes...any Cryptek can be bought as 1 of 5 Harbingers. The one with Haywire is the Harbinger of the Storm (the weapon is Voltaic Staff).

 jasper76 wrote:
I like it for a 1000 point list...if you're good with 2 scoring units, than you're good to go IMO.

If you find in time you need another scoring unit, you should be able to find another 5+ warriors on ebay for cheapish


Automatically Appended Next Post:
P.S. If you're money conscious or dont like finecast, the Annihilation Barges come with an Overlord model, which can be converted into a Cryptek (just find a couple Deathmark heads to get the one-eye thing)

Also, the Annihilation Barge kit is modeled in such a way that you dont have to glue on the big TL Tesla Gun...so you can swap it in and out between Annihilation and Catacomb Command Barges.


Automatically Appended Next Post:

 mixer86 wrote:
Is it the Cryptek has the haywire weapon?

I don't think you got an answer to this. Yes...any Cryptek can be bought as 1 of 5 Harbingers. The one with Haywire is the Harbinger of the Storm (the weapon is Voltaic Staff).

Great thats my Necron list sorted then.

Cheers for all your help.

Next up...Dark Eldar.

Awesome...good luck!


And good luck with your Dark Eldar too....can't help ya at all with that one!

 jasper76 wrote:
Awesome...good luck!


And good luck with your Dark Eldar too....can't help at all with that one

Well so far i have nailed down:

Tau
Guard
Necrons

Next is Dark Eldar then Dark Angels.

 mixer86 wrote:

 jasper76 wrote:
Awesome...good luck!


And good luck with your Dark Eldar too....can't help at all with that one

Well so far i have nailed down:

Tau
Guard
Necrons

Next is Dark Eldar then Dark Angels.

Seems like a fun project...cheers!

 mixer86 wrote:

 jasper76 wrote:
Yeah...the Warscythe is the best CC weapon in the Codex by far (one of the best in the game, actually), so you don' wanna get rid of that.

You really dont have any options codex-wise with this list except for extra Warrior bodies...or you could add another Stormtek, but IMO that's Haywire overkill for a 1000 point game.

So after that I think its just wargear options for your DLord or Wraiths.

So you gotta decide between a Res Orb (its not so much pointless, it can still keep your DLord alive) or Some whips and guns for your Wraiths.

IIRC, the pistols are only 5 points...they're not so great weapons, but at least they're cheap, and they do add some Overwatch and will give that unit some shots.

So maybe 3 pistols and 1 more set of Whip Coils.

On the off chance that you don't know this, when you run your Wraiths, but the Whip Coils in the back behind a meatshield so they don't get popped off first,

Last revision then:


Post 2014/04/30 11:22:56 Subject: Re:Necron 1k list. Is it any good?
Is it the Cryptek has the haywire weapon?

If so, what about this?

Des Lord- MSS, Weave

6 Warriors, Cryptek, scythe
6 Warriors, Cryptek, scythe

6 Wraiths- 3 Whip Coils, 3 casters

2 A. Barges

=1001

Well, its not legal if you run a DLord. For the Crypteks you'll need an Overlord.
I'd keep the equipment of the Wraiths at a minimum.

 wuestenfux wrote:

Well, its not legal if you run a DLord. For the Crypteks you'll need an Overlord.

D'oh...(s)he's right!


Stupid silly rule.

Yeah a friend picked that up as well.

Ok Final Final draft.

Des Lord- MSS, Weave- 160

5 Warriors- Scythe- 165
5 Warriors- Scythe- 165

6 Wraiths- 3 Whip Coils- 240

A. Barge- 90
A. Barge- 90
A. Barge- 90

=1000

Glad to hear you didn't spend any $$$ on my Royal Court oversite!

Yup...that looks like a strong 1000 point list IMO, with the main weakness being few scoring units.

If you find this to be a problem (few scoring units), you could find some warriors on the cheap on ebay or something and trade one of the AB for another blob of 6-7 warriors.

But from your posts you seem OK with 2 scoring units, so I'd say your good to go IMO (for real this time...sorry about that!)