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Can 2+ IC join the same unit and do any bonuses/psychic abilities they can do all count?

Yes. You can have as many ics join a unit as you like.

You can even join ICs together.

Page 39 contains all the permissions and restrictions you need to know

 Mywik wrote:

You can even join ICs together.

nope, they can never join a unit that's a single model. so you can't join a chaplain to a dreadknight, for example.

other than that, as many as you want. if you want to be regarded as an irritating so 'n' so, you can even load up a unit of wraithguard with a load of psykers to give them so many buffs as to be untouchable. yaaay.

 some bloke wrote:

 Mywik wrote:

You can even join ICs together.

nope, they can never join a unit that's a single model. so you can't join a chaplain to a dreadknight, for example.

other than that, as many as you want. if you want to be regarded as an irritating so 'n' so, you can even load up a unit of wraithguard with a load of psykers to give them so many buffs as to be untouchable. yaaay.

You might want to re-read the IC rules - specifically the last sentence of the first paragraph.

Your example is correct, however, since Dreadknights are not ICs.

 some bloke wrote:

 Mywik wrote:

You can even join ICs together.

nope, they can never join a unit that's a single model. so you can't join a chaplain to a dreadknight, for example.

Which is why i said you can join ICs together. A dreadknight is only a character. Not an independant characer. My statement remains true per p.39 first paragraph.

 some bloke wrote:

 Mywik wrote:

You can even join ICs together.

nope, they can never join a unit that's a single model. so you can't join a chaplain to a dreadknight, for example.

other than that, as many as you want. if you want to be regarded as an irritating so 'n' so, you can even load up a unit of wraithguard with a load of psykers to give them so many buffs as to be untouchable. yaaay.

Apart from ICs, where they have specific allowance to be joined together. Page 39, read all of it.

there's a debate regarding units that can be fielded with only 1 model, but able to buy more models (Carnifex and Riptide, for example). Personally I let ICs join a unit of 1 Carnifex or Riptide without drones, as they aren't a unit that ALWAYS consists of a single model. However, you better check with other players about this.

 Vector Strike wrote:
there's a debate regarding units that can be fielded with only 1 model, but able to buy more models (Carnifex and Riptide, for example). Personally I let ICs join a unit of 1 Carnifex or Riptide without drones, as they aren't a unit that ALWAYS consists of a single model. However, you better check with other players about this.

I've never understood that debate. The unit is clearly not a unit that always consists of a single model and as such there is no restriction on ICs joining the unit.

There's a "debate", as in there's a bunch of people trying to explain simple rules to people who stubbornly refuse to budge on their erroneous beliefs.

 Vector Strike wrote:
there's a debate regarding units that can be fielded with only 1 model, but able to buy more models (Carnifex and Riptide, for example). Personally I let ICs join a unit of 1 Carnifex or Riptide without drones, as they aren't a unit that ALWAYS consists of a single model. However, you better check with other players about this.

There is no debate, just people who really don't understand the rules.

If a unit can have more than 1 model then an IC may join it.

Best example is A Crisis suit Bodyguard team, which has a unit composition of 1 model that you can then buy an additional model for.

For the people believing that Units consisting of one model can not be joined, universally apply that logic creates a great deal more questionable situations and problems. For example: What happens if a Unit is reduced to one Model thanks to enemy actions, at that point the Independent Character would be forbidden from Joining thanks to that mis-reading of the Rule. It also brings Kommissar Kel's post to the foreground as the ultimate question, and something I believe is the ultimate reason why it doesn't work that way: A Bodyguard Unit would never be able to Join with, and therefore can not protect, the Commander that unlocked their ability to be purchased in the first place.

A Bodyguard Unit designed to be exactly what it's name suggests, with Special Rules giving them all sorts of bonuses when it comes to doing things like Look Our Sir, that never can join a commander....

Good points. The one about Crisis suit is very good. One of the 'problems' people find is probably because of the wording (go figure) of the IC rule - people tend to link 'most' only to vehicles and not to Monstrous creatures, when it refers to both. As, in fact, most monstrous creatures are lone units - but not all of them.

Additional question on this topic, probably stupid, can an IC join a vehicle squadron?

danny1995 wrote:
Additional question on this topic, probably stupid, can an IC join a vehicle squadron?

Page 39 contains all the permissions and restrictions you need to know

danny1995 wrote:
Additional question on this topic, probably stupid, can an IC join a vehicle squadron?

Perfectly clear on page 39.
No.

Please read the rules before asking a question about them.

Im thinking about putting this on the board one day.

2000 pts dual force org White scars CT/w allied Iron hands clan rakaun

White scars:
3 CM on bikes:
CMA-shield eternal/lightning claw/arti armor
CMB-grav pistol/burning blade/arti armor
CMC-grav pistol/teeth of terra
1 chaplain on bike with melta bombs
2 techmarine on bike/w servo harness

1 bike squad with 2 grav guns/melta bomb
1 bike squad with 2 melta guns/combi melta/melta bomb
2 scout squad with bolters

Clan Rakaan:
CM on bike/w gorgans chain, arti armor, grav pistol, and the axe of medusa
CM on bike/w lightning claw and power fist

2 scout squads/w CCW and melta bomb



So 5 chapter masters 2 techmarines and a chaplain on bikes attatched to a 5 man bike squad and 6 scoring units mostly with scout and infiltrate.

Might swap one CM out with khan and buy a LSS or 2 with the extra points.

Eihnlazer wrote:
Im thinking about putting this on the board one day.

2000 pts dual force org White scars CT/w allied Iron hands clan rakaun

White scars:
3 CM on bikes:
CMA-shield eternal/lightning claw/arti armor
CMB-grav pistol/burning blade/arti armor
CMC-grav pistol/teeth of terra
1 chaplain on bike with melta bombs
2 techmarine on bike/w servo harness

1 bike squad with 2 grav guns/melta bomb
1 bike squad with 2 melta guns/combi melta/melta bomb
2 scout squad with bolters

Clan Rakaan:
CM on bike/w gorgans chain, arti armor, grav pistol, and the axe of medusa
CM on bike/w lightning claw and power fist

2 scout squads/w CCW and melta bomb



So 5 chapter masters 2 techmarines and a chaplain on bikes attatched to a 5 man bike squad and 6 scoring units mostly with scout and infiltrate.

Might swap one CM out with khan and buy a LSS or 2 with the extra points.

Yes that works, but yikes expensive for very few units.