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A good couple of months ago, I fell out with my friends who were into the hobby
I wont say why exactly, but towards the end of our friendship they really did make an effort to just give me a bad time
I definitely do not regret burning my bridges
But now I'm finding it really hard to enjoy my local gaming spots.

My dad runs a Gw store, and its amazing. He loves his job, and I really enjoy the place. I've spent entire days hanging out there, and I've made friends with some really really cool people.
I love our little community we've got going there but,
My day just seems to be ruined whenever my older friends decide to show up
Its not particularly easy to ignore them as the store is pretty small.

So I guess I've gotta ask; the hobby is being ruined for me, what should I do?
I'm sure I'm not the only one going through something like this, and I'd appreciate any advice.

i know my story inst exactly the same. I hope the advice helps however.

The management at my local game store has devolved over the last several years. the manager is a very grumpy self centered man. (yay PG for public) the player who show up for tournaments are win at all cost types. so I built a table in my own place and started looking for new stores.

Luckily i have a fairly large area with several stores to go to.
so 2 suggestions in a simple list form. second one just hit me.

1. find/build a new place to play.
2 kill your former friends with kindness.

Your dad cany ban some one for just having a bad attitude but if you start being very nice and showing that your former friends no long bother you it may make them either A rethink their attitude or they may do something stupid and give your dad an excuse to ban them.

i really hope you find some solution.
Good luck

If they are going to be dicks just get them banned from the store.

I don't know why these people are being bullies. But at the end of the day, this the business owned by your dad there is no reason you should ever have to feel uncomfortable inside of it, whether you enjoy playing 40k or not, nor should you have to look for other places to enjoy your leisure time.


Especially since if they are behaving like this to absolutely anyone else, they are likely hurting your fathers business.

Here's an idea,

Jump into the suit of power armor that is around every GW store, and kick their asses!

But in reality, just do not stoop to their level, its not worth it, just be really nice to them like Mali said, it might get them to leave you alone.

Beat them sensless with the big red book, then forcefeed them good manners. Voila good times

They didn't ever really do anything to me at the store that's the thing. It was a whole lot of dishonesty that really killed it for me. I learned about a whole lot of things going on behind my back. My dad knows about the stuff they've done but they have purchased things from the store. They don't really bother anyone else either so it'd be somewhat unreasonable to ban them.
I think the mature 'kill them with kindness' deal is gonna be what I'm going for if they decide to bother me.
They just get under my skin

Can't you just ignore them?

Honestly . thats how it has been for me lately.

I have had a group of friends Ive play with over the course of 6-7 years. Slowly but surely the group has been diminishing.

We started off with 6-7 people, now its down to 3. The other 2 guys i play with have been good friends for awhile and it always is 2v1 , me being the "1" even during a free-for-all.

Now its gotten to the point to where they are demoralized and dont want to play with me anymore. So I have been looking into playing at my Local Hobby store until they get their problems worked out.

Ragnar69 wrote:
Can't you just ignore them?

As the store is pretty small, when they do show up it's pretty had to avoid contact.
I've always been civil towards them at the least.
I shouldnt have let them discourage me
Maybe me getting all upst just by their presence is immature, I gotta get over it

 Njal Stormpuppy wrote:

Ragnar69 wrote:
Can't you just ignore them?

As the store is pretty small, when they do show up it's pretty had to avoid contact.
I've always been civil towards them at the least.
I shouldnt have let them discourage me
Maybe me getting all upst just by their presence is immature, I gotta get over it

ignore my comment


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 SHUPPET wrote:
If they are going to be dicks just get them banned from the store.

I don't know why these people are being bullies. But at the end of the day, this the business owned by your dad there is no reason you should ever have to feel uncomfortable inside of it, whether you enjoy playing 40k or not, nor should you have to look for other places to enjoy your leisure time.


Especially since if they are behaving like this to absolutely anyone else, they are likely hurting your fathers business.

ignore my comment

I have kind of the exact opposite problem in a sense. My small group has been friends since high school days (or longer), and I enjoy their company. However, one of them has slowly evolved into a TFG, and as a result, the games against him haven't been particularly fun. He has a tendacy to take a select few units he knows everybody hates to play against because they are rather OP and/or underpriced, and even though we give him grief every single time, he continues to take them, no matter how small the game. He has been expressing interest in building a new army, and I'm strongly encouraging him to do so just to hopefully change things up (we are small group) and to maybe give him an idea of how busted his current army is (he has only ever proxied one other army, and it was Tau, so he didn't notice a huge drop in performance).

 ClassicCarraway wrote:
I have kind of the exact opposite problem in a sense. My small group has been friends since high school days (or longer), and I enjoy their company. However, one of them has slowly evolved into a TFG, and as a result, the games against him haven't been particularly fun. He has a tendacy to take a select few units he knows everybody hates to play against because they are rather OP and/or underpriced, and even though we give him grief every single time, he continues to take them, no matter how small the game. He has been expressing interest in building a new army, and I'm strongly encouraging him to do so just to hopefully change things up (we are small group) and to maybe give him an idea of how busted his current army is (he has only ever proxied one other army, and it was Tau, so he didn't notice a huge drop in performance).

maybe your friend does not find it fun to lose. maybe he likes playing competitive games.
try playing competitive as well with your friend!

I used to be a part of this school tournament scene many years back. We used to practice with other pupils and do tournaments. We would write lists and play against each other to see who had the better list - we would then help the other players to write their own lists. Then one day this new kid joined our school and everything changed for me. He came along to one game and I was the first person he played. He lost badly, stood up silently and walked around to me. He lean't down and whispered in my ear that he we going to hurt me and my family next time he saw me. I was worried but thought nothing would come of it but then he appeared on the basketball courts. I used to play lots of sports and was usually outside - it was on the playground where I spent most of my days, chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool and all shootin some b-ball outside of the school - When a couple of guys who were up to no good started making trouble in my neighborhood. I got in one little fight and my mom got scared she said 'You're movin' with your auntie and uncle in Bel Air'. I whistled for a cab and when it came near the license plate said fresh and it had dice in the mirror - If anything I could say that this cab was rare but I thought 'Nah, forget it' - 'Yo, homes to Bel Air'. I pulled up to the house about 7 or 8 and I yelled to the cabbie 'Yo homes smell ya later'. I looked at my kingdom, I was finally there, to sit on my throne as the Prince of Bel Air.


In all seriousness though, carry on playing with people and just ignore them - not in an 'I'm ignoring you' way, just carry on, be polite but don't invite them to play with you ^^

I have similar things going on in my group of friends as we've all come to an agreement that I'm mostly a dick and they should all gang up on me in our friendly games so I can't win.

But I'm a shmuck for punishment and I actually kinda like the idea of the lesser races banding together to fight off my nasty CSM and Daemon allies. Course, it kinda ruins the fun of a 4 man free for all or even a 3 man free for all, but that doesn't usually stop me from winning in a lot of cases, or even eeking out a draw between us by playing the scenario.

For instance, my one good friend played DE for a long time as it was his first army. He brought double FOCs to most 2k games and ended up bringing 4 flyers, this was before the new 6th Edition Chaos dex. Once the 6th Edition dex hit and Heldrakes became a "thing" I brought 3 in every list, even my 1k lists like a complete jackass! He learned, we learned, we drank and had some fun times and now we all enjoy a good amount of carnage.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, "Don't let it get to you if everyone decides to attack you first or even wipe you off the board - you gotta take the game with a smile. If your friends wants to bring things against you that tend to piss you off, bring something to piss them off and start an arms race (If only to get them to spend more money on the hobby, then quit after you drop your first 60$!) LOL!

not sure how we're supposed to advise you if you wont give any indication of what the actual problem is....

GoliothOnline wrote:

But I'm a shmuck for punishment and I actually kinda like the idea of the lesser races banding together to fight off my nasty CSM and Daemon allies. Course, it kinda ruins the fun of a 4 man free for all or even a 3 man free for all, but that doesn't usually stop me from winning in a lot of cases, or even eeking out a draw between us by playing the scenario.

is why me and my friends dont play 3-4way games anymore lol!

I just brainstorm conversions while nodding and *yeah, aha* politely. :p

 ClassicCarraway wrote:
I have kind of the exact opposite problem in a sense. My small group has been friends since high school days (or longer), and I enjoy their company. However, one of them has slowly evolved into a TFG, and as a result, the games against him haven't been particularly fun. He has a tendacy to take a select few units he knows everybody hates to play against because they are rather OP and/or underpriced, and even though we give him grief every single time, he continues to take them, no matter how small the game. He has been expressing interest in building a new army, and I'm strongly encouraging him to do so just to hopefully change things up (we are small group) and to maybe give him an idea of how busted his current army is (he has only ever proxied one other army, and it was Tau, so he didn't notice a huge drop in performance).

Just flat out tell him.

We speak about this in our group too, if people bring armies that are not fun to play against we tell them.

 Wulfmar wrote:
I used to be a part of this school tournament scene many years back. We used to practice with other pupils and do tournaments. We would write lists and play against each other to see who had the better list - we would then help the other players to write their own lists. Then one day this new kid joined our school and everything changed for me. He came along to one game and I was the first person he played. He lost badly, stood up silently and walked around to me. He lean't down and whispered in my ear that he we going to hurt me and my family next time he saw me. I was worried but thought nothing would come of it but then he appeared on the basketball courts. I used to play lots of sports and was usually outside - it was on the playground where I spent most of my days, chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool and all shootin some b-ball outside of the school - When a couple of guys who were up to no good started making trouble in my neighborhood. I got in one little fight and my mom got scared she said 'You're movin' with your auntie and uncle in Bel Air'. I whistled for a cab and when it came near the license plate said fresh and it had dice in the mirror - If anything I could say that this cab was rare but I thought 'Nah, forget it' - 'Yo, homes to Bel Air'. I pulled up to the house about 7 or 8 and I yelled to the cabbie 'Yo homes smell ya later'. I looked at my kingdom, I was finally there, to sit on my throne as the Prince of Bel Air.


In all seriousness though, carry on playing with people and just ignore them - not in an 'I'm ignoring you' way, just carry on, be polite but don't invite them to play with you ^^

I got,half way through this when I realised what you were doing, hahaha, genius!

Is your problem with these people originating from the game (rules disputes, tfg, other in-game behaviour) or from other real life issues?

If it's the former then just avoid playing them while you/they are still upset/cross and/or you think the issue is likely to arise again if you play them.

Since they just seem to be going about their business instead of actively trying to bother you I suggest live and let live.
Try to get over it (or move somewhere else, but that seems overkill).
Of course, actually solving the underlying problem you have with these people might be the best solution, if feasible.

 Njal Stormpuppy wrote:
A good couple of months ago, I fell out with my friends who were into the hobby
I wont say why exactly, but towards the end of our friendship they really did make an effort to just give me a bad time
I definitely do not regret burning my bridges
But now I'm finding it really hard to enjoy my local gaming spots.

Been there (well, extremely close to there), it was the reason I gave away (not sold) my Emperor's Children Army and left the hobby years ago. (Spoiler warning: it didn't last). I won't go into details, but sometimes just being around them is stressful/ aggravating enough (I know if I saw at least one of those old friends, I'd probably be the major idiot who starts a physical fight) to warrant you to change stores or leave the hobby. I understand that. Ignoring them or smoothing over the problems isn't always an option. I could search the town I live in for groups to play with, but I'd rather not risk running into any of those jerk-offs ever again. I'm lucky in that I've got a bunch of friends about 40 minutes away from where I live, that I went to High-School With, one of which was the one to get me back into WH40k.

Mali wrote:
i know my story inst exactly the same. I hope the advice helps however.

The management at my local game store has devolved over the last several years. the manager is a very grumpy self centered man. (yay PG for public) the player who show up for tournaments are win at all cost types. so I built a table in my own place and started looking for new stores.

Luckily i have a fairly large area with several stores to go to.
so 2 suggestions in a simple list form. second one just hit me.

1. find/build a new place to play.
2 kill your former friends with kindness.

It's not the ideal situation, but I agree with Point #1 here. Build your own table, invite those that you do like, over to play at your place. If that's not enough, use the Internet to search nearby towns and find a different group. One or Two Nights a week of playing, even with two-hours of driving can be a lot more satisfying than either leaving the hobby or just putting up with the stress of being around people you dislike and trying to have fun at a cramped store. I know that one personally.

 Farseer Morlengal wrote:

 Njal Stormpuppy wrote:
A good couple of months ago, I fell out with my friends who were into the hobby
I wont say why exactly, but towards the end of our friendship they really did make an effort to just give me a bad time
I definitely do not regret burning my bridges
But now I'm finding it really hard to enjoy my local gaming spots.

Been there (well, extremely close to there), it was the reason I gave away (not sold) my Emperor's Children Army and left the hobby years ago. (Spoiler warning: it didn't last). I won't go into details, but sometimes just being around them is stressful/ aggravating enough (I know if I saw at least one of those old friends, I'd probably be the major idiot who starts a physical fight) to warrant you to change stores or leave the hobby. I understand that. Ignoring them or smoothing over the problems isn't always an option. I could search the town I live in for groups to play with, but I'd rather not risk running into any of those jerk-offs ever again. I'm lucky in that I've got a bunch of friends about 40 minutes away from where I live, that I went to High-School With, one of which was the one to get me back into WH40k.

Mali wrote:
i know my story inst exactly the same. I hope the advice helps however.

The management at my local game store has devolved over the last several years. the manager is a very grumpy self centered man. (yay PG for public) the player who show up for tournaments are win at all cost types. so I built a table in my own place and started looking for new stores.

Luckily i have a fairly large area with several stores to go to.
so 2 suggestions in a simple list form. second one just hit me.

1. find/build a new place to play.
2 kill your former friends with kindness.

It's not the ideal situation, but I agree with Point #1 here. Build your own table, invite those that you do like, over to play at your place. If that's not enough, use the Internet to search nearby towns and find a different group. One or Two Nights a week of playing, even with two-hours of driving can be a lot more satisfying than either leaving the hobby or just putting up with the stress of being around people you dislike and trying to have fun at a cramped store. I know that one personally.

I think I'll be able to just let it go, let it pass. It would totally suck If I couldn't go to my dad's own store.
Glad to hear that you found a solution and you're back into the hobby

I never said avoid your Dad's shop, just have an alternative of where to go. Vary your hang-outs, so if things do get awkward, you have somewhere you can go where they won't bother you.

Thank you for that, by the way. Now I just need a good reason to get back into loving the fluff of 40k (used to be my favorite part of it). I'm not big on competitive play and I really want to start or run or be in a campaign. But that's besides the point.

Hope everything (with your former{?} friends) goes well for you. If it doesn't, remember: friends come and go. You can keep or loose as many as you want, but there will always be more people out there that you have something in common with.