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The photos in the new wood elf book look like the Rare choice Treeman is 50mm wide and 100mm deep, while the Treenman Ancient (lord choice) is 100mm wide and 50mm deep.
Do the assembly directs give you any indication as to which side counts as front?

-Matt

The instructions show all three as 75mmx50mm

 Krellnus wrote:
The instructions show all three as 75mmx50mm

You missed OP's point I think, he seems to be asking about the orientation of the base ( chariot/screaming bell/ Dragon way (long & narrow) or "sideways")
I don't have a model in mind with a rectangular base in the "wide" position, but I know plenty in the "long" one so I'd guess it's that way ( like a chariot)

Edit: Having just checked, the only units I saw (looking at monsters) that weren't in the "chariot" setup were the Soulgrinders and all 3 variations of the Treeman

 B0B MaRlEy wrote:

 Krellnus wrote:
The instructions show all three as 75mmx50mm

You missed OP's point I think, he seems to be asking about the orientation of the base ( chariot/screaming bell/ Dragon way (long & narrow) or "sideways")

Howso? I gave him the orientation 75mmx50mm or if you don't know what that means, the wide part faces to the front, the short part to the sides.

In the instructions the Treeman always has the longest part of his base facing forward each time. The Regular Treeman though, for some reason, has his head and leading arm facing to the side so it can create the effect that whilst his legs are braced for the longest part of the base, his head and direction of focus is toward the shorter end.

 Overread wrote:
In the instructions the Treeman always has the longest part of his base facing forward each time. The Regular Treeman though, for some reason, has his head and leading arm facing to the side so it can create the effect that whilst his legs are braced for the longest part of the base, his head and direction of focus is toward the shorter end.

That's basically it. Which side is the front for the normal treeman?

-Matt

The longest, its the same as the other treemen and it fits because the facing on the front of the cover has them all with the bases the same way; fronts facing forward.

The angle of the head and arm is basically just a designers choice and might also simply be a result of the legs being very "Square" on the base in the assembly guide

 Overread wrote:
The longest, its the same as the other treemen and it fits because the facing on the front of the cover has them all with the bases the same way; fronts facing forward.
The angle of the head and arm is basically just a designers choice and might also simply be a result of the legs being very "Square" on the base in the assembly guide

The army book rules don't label the front.
Yeah, it's the designers choice to have the head and both arms facing the 50mm side.
The question is, what makes a Front? Legs? Chest? Head?

Lord Choice Treepeople are a totally different entry than Rare choice ones. On the lord choices it's obvious, on the rare choice, not so much.
I'd be inclined to let any opponent who wants to run their Treeman 50mm wides; because that's 11 less waywatchers showing up. I'm all for anything that encourages treemen.

-Matt

Do we know what size is the base included in the new treeman kit?

I've one right here, the base is s 75x50mm and in the instructions all 3 are shown facing the same way with the long edge to the front. If the short were the front of the treeman his assembly pages and picture would have his short end facing forward; the fact that they are all the same suggest that the long end is the front and that the face direction is purely a cosmetic choice of the designer (he might also have had a different base size during testing whilst hte sculpt was being made).

 HawaiiMatt wrote:

 Overread wrote:
In the instructions the Treeman always has the longest part of his base facing forward each time. The Regular Treeman though, for some reason, has his head and leading arm facing to the side so it can create the effect that whilst his legs are braced for the longest part of the base, his head and direction of focus is toward the shorter end.

That's basically it. Which side is the front for the normal treeman?

-Matt

Since you still don't seem to understand, i'll spell it out again.

The instructions show them as having the long edge front on, do you want a photo?

 Krellnus wrote:

 HawaiiMatt wrote:

 Overread wrote:
In the instructions the Treeman always has the longest part of his base facing forward each time. The Regular Treeman though, for some reason, has his head and leading arm facing to the side so it can create the effect that whilst his legs are braced for the longest part of the base, his head and direction of focus is toward the shorter end.

That's basically it. Which side is the front for the normal treeman?

-Matt

Since you still don't seem to understand, i'll spell it out again.

The instructions show them as having the long edge front on, do you want a photo?

Yeah, post the photo where it shows "front".

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Chaos-Lord-on-Daemonic-Mount
Facing of the head, not the legs, body or chest is front.

Er that chaos model is on a square base - it doesn't really matter which is the front - the rear end of the mount can be the front and its still going to play the same

 Overread wrote:
Er that chaos model is on a square base - it doesn't really matter which is the front - the rear end of the mount can be the front and its still going to play the same

That model was released on a 25mm by 50mm.
The point is that the ONLY character with legs, and chest facing one direction and the head as another uses the direction of the head for the front.

-Matt

I don't think that has ever been a rule. The rule is the front side is the front side and far as I can tell the front side is the long side. The orientation of the model itself really isn't important. In fantasy its all about the base itself.

true but there are no rules regarding which is the front of the model, it is on a model by model basis, it is perfectly legal for a hell canon for instance to be mounted facing down the long range (large flank) or short ways (large frontage).

its down to personal choice

Indeed, the treeman appears to be facing to the narrow side, the long view if you will, which is appropriate. The ancient and durthu appear to be facing the wide side, which is awkward if you ask me. But yes, they do appear to be different from each other.

 Nosreme wrote:
But yes, they do appear to be different from each other.

But they're not, as the assembly instructions show.
The head is just tilted a little to the right on the images.

I think with this much ambiguity you can have the Treeman facing whichever way you want, i run my Treeman with the front of the model being the longer side of the base and no one minds, so at the end of the day place it who you wish

Matt's question actually matters. If that Treeman fights a unit in horde formation it either fights just a few troops on the short end or almost the whole unit on the long end. It makes the Treeman not so good imo as you want your monsters to have as small a front facing as possible to minimize attacks coming at it.

 Brotherjanus wrote:
Matt's question actually matters. If that Treeman fights a unit in horde formation it either fights just a few troops on the short end or almost the whole unit on the long end. It makes the Treeman not so good imo as you want your monsters to have as small a front facing as possible to minimize attacks coming at it.

Ancient is wide, normal is narrow.

 nutty_nutter wrote:
there are no rules regarding which is the front of the model, it is on a model by model basis, it is perfectly legal for a hell canon for instance to be mounted facing down the long range (large flank) or short ways (large frontage).

its down to personal choice

I'll leave this here.