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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/17 15:24:20
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
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Kanluwen wrote:Then make that argument. See how little time it took you to expound upon that statement?
Vague statements like "France has some strict gun laws and we saw how that worked out" are open-ended nonsense and effectively contribute nothing to the discussion at hand.
Mis-reading another user's post and ascribing arguments to him that he did not make actually add nothing to the discussion
Kanluwen wrote:It really isn't too difficult to grasp as to why I'm "conflating these two concepts" given your posting style of "Let me put out a tiny statement that says nothing then get offended when someone 'mistakes' my intentions!".
Do_I_Not_Like_That; how easy is it for refugees to get guns in America
dreadclaw; I don't they can pass a background check, but there are illicit sources - see France
Kanluwen; OMG a gun owner would not have stopped that attack. How can you suggest that fantasy
My statement said plenty to address the question at hand as to whether or not refugees could access firearms in the US. The question as to whether a CCW could have had an impact in Paris is one you threw into the mix as a complete non sequitur
Kanluwen wrote:MAYBE if you actually made a reasonable post rather than make nebulous statements, people could reply to your argument?
So answering a question directly is not a reasonable post? Was mis-reading my statement reasonable?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/17 15:31:36
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Dreadclaw69 wrote: Kanluwen wrote:Then make that argument. See how little time it took you to expound upon that statement?
Vague statements like "France has some strict gun laws and we saw how that worked out" are open-ended nonsense and effectively contribute nothing to the discussion at hand.
Mis-reading another user's post and ascribing arguments to him that he did not make actually add nothing to the discussion
Speaking of "misreading another user's post and ascribing arguments to him that he did not make actually"...
Kanluwen wrote:It really isn't too difficult to grasp as to why I'm "conflating these two concepts" given your posting style of "Let me put out a tiny statement that says nothing then get offended when someone 'mistakes' my intentions!".
Do_I_Not_Like_That; how easy is it for refugees to get guns in America
Somehow you got that from:
Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:You guys not worried about fighters returning? You'll know better than me about the availibility of guns in the USA...
My statement said plenty to address the question at hand as to whether or not refugees could access firearms in the US. The question as to whether a CCW could have had an impact in Paris is one you threw into the mix as a complete non sequitur
He made no mention of refugees.
He's making a reference to the fact that there are a number of Western Muslims who are actively going to Syria to fight against ISIS/ISIL and Assad's regime.
Kanluwen wrote:MAYBE if you actually made a reasonable post rather than make nebulous statements, people could reply to your argument?
So answering a question directly is not a reasonable post? Was mis-reading my statement reasonable?
I'd suggest you actually start reading and replying to things in a timely and reasonable manner rather than picking and choosing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/17 15:34:44
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
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whembly wrote:
I'd still submit that which ever party claiming "I'll bring articles of impeachment to the President"... is simply using it as a bully pulpit to get their point across.
That is usually the case because neither side really wants it to become standard practice for the President to face impeachment whenever the opposition holds Congress. Not to mention that a serious run at impeachment is a dangerous gambit, as it can easily be seen as going directly against the will of the people.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/17 15:39:09
Subject: Re:The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
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Fascinating as the little side trek into who did/didn't say what is, we'll end this here.
Now.
Any further posts relating to this tangent will be treated as spam.
Thank you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/17 15:45:01
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/17 16:23:00
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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agnosto wrote: Jihadin wrote:sirlynchmob wrote: Tannhauser42 wrote: agnosto wrote:Funny how these are the Governors who profess to love, promise to uphold the Constitution but still think that they have the power to restrict who settles in their state:
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James Madison had this to say; "to invite foreigners of merit & republican principles among us. America was indebted to emigration for her settlement & prosperity."
It's almost as if these people have forgotten what America, and the light of liberty stand for:
Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!
ya the statue needs to go, we should tear it down. If we turn our back on those that need help then the terrorists have won and we don't need that statue making false promises.
No where in there does it say Terrorists. This intensive background check Obama said is damn near impossible. Syrian government is tore up from the floor up. Hell did not some of the Terrorist enter the EU on Refugee status. That PS4 peer to peer comm was quite clever
It's about living up to our stated principles. We're either a nation that topples governments because they're oppressing their people and promulgating terrorism or we're a bunch of mewling babies hiding behind a closed border. Anyone who wants to see America become irrelevant on the world stage should support closing the borders; hermit kingdom 2.0 here we come!
The statue of liberty doesn't say, "Send all of these to me, except for Syrians, feth them, they can watch their children drown." We can close our borders and put a live body on every square foot of border space and still a terrorist could waltz in if they wanted. Heck, we've been on this war on drugs thing for decades and we still can't stop drug boats and tunnels.
No. The difference is in the hard work that DHS and the other alphabet agencies are putting in to keep us all safe so we can continue doing the inane day-to-day crap that we all do.
The Statue of Liberty's phrase wasn't there originally.
please show me these stated principles? The ones I see are in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. None of which mention anything you're even remotely talking about.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/17 17:28:00
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
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Frazzled wrote:
The Statue of Liberty's phrase wasn't there originally.
please show me these stated principles? The ones I see are in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. None of which mention anything you're even remotely talking about.
Yep, and the fact that it was an American poet who wrote it AND American people who decided it deserved to be installed upon the pedestal which was also built by Americans, all of which should tell you something. Or not, I guess.
As to Principles being stated. Washington said it pretty well:
No? How about Reagan?
Speaking at a ceremony celebrating Hispanic Heritage:
"At the root of everything that we're trying to accomplish is the belief that America has a mission. We are a nation of freedom, living under God, believing all citizens must have the opportunity to grow, create wealth, and build a better life for those who follow. If we live up to those moral values, we can keep the American dream alive for our children and our grandchildren, and America will remain mankind's best hope."
At the end of the Vietnam war, we accepted over 800,000 refugees.
And so on. We have a long history of accepting refugees; heck even George W passed a law that allowed N. Koreans to come here, you know the people who have said that they're going to nuke us.
We're either the shining beacon on the hill or we're not. If we're not, we need to stop meddling in other country's affairs and just become the grumpy old man telling everybody to get off our lawn.
All this nonsense is reactionary and smacks of little boys peeing their pants because they're too chicken to face the big, bad world rather than a real and present danger to our nation. As a nation we can either have our big boy and girl pants on or we can become irrelevant on the world stage.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/17 17:46:09
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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We have 20mm illegal refugees now. You don't have a clue.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/17 17:48:33
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
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There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/17 17:52:19
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Incorrect. Something like 30 governors are now against it.
I'm very against allowing them in.
I'm all for beginning the citizenship for people that are already here, as long as we secure the borders at the same time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/17 17:53:59
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Frazzled wrote:
Incorrect. Something like 30 governors are now against it.
I'm very against allowing them in.
I'm all for beginning the citizenship for people that are already here, as long as we secure the borders at the same time.
Oh no, not the governors being against it!
People like Pat McCrory being against it means it must be a good idea.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/17 17:56:45
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
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Douglas Bader
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I don't really see how "governors are against it" is an argument against what I said.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/17 17:59:16
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Peregrine wrote:
I don't really see how "governors are against it" is an argument against what I said.
Majority thinks Syrian refugees make them less safe.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/16/us-france-shooting-usa-poll-idUSKCN0T528Y20151116#382j2XmsbwYECo7E.97
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/17 17:59:46
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
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Douglas Bader
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And, again, what does that have to do with what I said?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/17 18:00:04
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Kanluwen wrote: Frazzled wrote: Incorrect. Something like 30 governors are now against it. I'm very against allowing them in. I'm all for beginning the citizenship for people that are already here, as long as we secure the borders at the same time.
Oh no, not the governors being against it! People like Pat McCrory being against it means it must be a good idea. How about the governor of Massachusetts? How about the governor of New Hampshire? How about Maine? 53% to 41% oppose admitting more. 58% believe they pose a security threat to the US. http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2285
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/17 18:10:33
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
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Fixture of Dakka
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What's that got to do with bringing legal refugees to the US as part of an international program? I don't have a clue?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/17 18:13:33
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Not good with numbers? We already have 20mm refugees here right now.
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-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/17 18:17:35
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
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Douglas Bader
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Frazzled wrote:Not good with numbers? We already have 20mm refugees here right now.
What does that have to do with the current issue?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/17 18:19:46
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
United States
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agnosto wrote:
What's that got to do with bringing legal refugees to the US as part of an international program? I don't have a clue?
He's trying to conflate illegal immigration with the admission of refugees.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/17 18:19:52
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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You're acting like we're not already doing our share.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/17 18:21:15
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
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dogma wrote: agnosto wrote:
What's that got to do with bringing legal refugees to the US as part of an international program? I don't have a clue?
He's trying to conflate illegal immigration with the admission of refugees.
Oh, he's being Frazz. I get it. Nevermind.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/17 18:22:49
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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dogma wrote: agnosto wrote:
What's that got to do with bringing legal refugees to the US as part of an international program? I don't have a clue?
He's trying to conflate illegal immigration with the admission of refugees.
Indeed, further, I am not counting the legal refugees we take in yearly. We do more than our part.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/17 18:25:42
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
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I get that people are concerned and afraid for our security, and we should take a look and think about what we're doing, but when people like Ted Cruz say that it's only the Muslim refugees we should block but allow the Christian refugees, that's what gets me pissed off.
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"Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me." - Twin Peaks
"You listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman." - Twin Peaks |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/17 18:30:10
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
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And, as I said, it's kind of hypocritical to claim credit for those 20 million people as "doing our share" while many of the same people who oppose taking Syrian refugees also want to kick the other 20 million people out and build a giant border wall to keep them out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/17 18:30:11
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Tannhauser42 wrote:I get that people are concerned and afraid for our security, and we should take a look and think about what we're doing, but when people like Ted Cruz say that it's only the Muslim refugees we should block but allow the Christian refugees, that's what gets me pissed off.
The Christians didn't just shoot up Paris for holy jihad. Automatically Appended Next Post: Peregrine wrote:
And, as I said, it's kind of hypocritical to claim credit for those 20 million people as "doing our share" while many of the same people who oppose taking Syrian refugees also want to kick the other 20 million people out and build a giant border wall to keep them out.
Then you should talk to them.
If a refugee later goes on a spree, can I get your promise you'll personally visit the families of the bereaved and tell them you supported letting their killer in?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/17 18:32:32
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
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Tannhauser42 wrote:I get that people are concerned and afraid for our security, and we should take a look and think about what we're doing, but when people like Ted Cruz say that it's only the Muslim refugees we should block but allow the Christian refugees, that's what gets me pissed off.
I agree with you that Cruz is a fething nutter and about as useful as a third nipple when he says gak like that.
And I think that, provided we take steps to mitigate the risks of taking in refugees from that part of the world who are already radicalized, we should take some in.
BUT, I think that we have our own issues to deal with. There are large numbers of homeless vets and children that we should be taking care of before we should be taking care of other immigrants. Personally this isn't an If, Then situation, we can take care of these problems simultaneously, I just personally think we should be taking steps to do so.
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Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
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Frazzled wrote: Tannhauser42 wrote:I get that people are concerned and afraid for our security, and we should take a look and think about what we're doing, but when people like Ted Cruz say that it's only the Muslim refugees we should block but allow the Christian refugees, that's what gets me pissed off.
The Christians didn't just shoot up Paris for holy jihad.
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Peregrine wrote:
And, as I said, it's kind of hypocritical to claim credit for those 20 million people as "doing our share" while many of the same people who oppose taking Syrian refugees also want to kick the other 20 million people out and build a giant border wall to keep them out.
Then you should talk to them.
If a refugee later goes on a spree, can I get your promise you'll personally visit the families of the bereaved and tell them you supported letting their killer in?
I'll play. How do you know they're Christian? Is there a holy water test? Weiner dog sniff-test? Touch them with a crucifix and see if they catch on fire?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/17 18:37:25
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
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Frazzled wrote:
Indeed, further, I am not counting the legal refugees we take in yearly. We do more than our part.
Illegal immigration is an entirely separate issue. Please do not try and shoehorn your pet concerns into this discussion.
Anyway, this isn't about taking in additional refugees, it is about explicitly refusing to accept Syrian refugees. I find this strange as only one of the people involved in the Paris attacks appears to have been a Syrian refugee, the remainder were, or appeared to be, citizens of European states.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/17 18:37:44
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
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Frazzled wrote:If a refugee later goes on a spree, can I get your promise you'll personally visit the families of the bereaved and tell them you supported letting their killer in?
This is a terrible argument. Any system that allows people to enter the US, or even live in the US at all, has the potential to allow terrorists to enter. Should we also ban tourists from entering the US, and insist that anyone who wants to allow the tourism industry to exist needs to personally apologize to the families of the victims if that happens to be the way that a terrorist enters the country? Automatically Appended Next Post:
This is true. We all know there's no such thing as Christian terrorists.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/17 18:42:11
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
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Tannhauser42 wrote:I get that people are concerned and afraid for our security, and we should take a look and think about what we're doing, but when people like Ted Cruz say that it's only the Muslim refugees we should block but allow the Christian refugees, that's what gets me pissed off.
Especially given that it would be quite easy to simply lie about one's religious beliefs. Something which many conservatives have long been quick to point out as being acceptable under certain interpretations of the Quran.
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