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I have 3 packs of Scion models, making 15 bodies.
I was thinking to run them as a 5-man TCS in a Chimera as a command vehicle.
The other 10 would be in a Taurox Prime.
The rest of my army would be platoons in Wall Of Martyrs trenches and bunkers, with a couple of Hellhound-types and a LRBT squadron. The points would be 1000.
I do have a couple of Valkyries, but wanted to keep them for a different list.

So, how would you kit out the Tempestus squads and their rides?

I usually magnetise my models when options are provided, but the tempestus kits are fiddly. The Melta, GL and volley-gun share arms with lasguns, so that's a pain.
The banner-bearer has a shared arm, too. There is only 1 of each weapon per boox, so I have a max of 3 total before kit-bashes and conversions.
The Flamer and Vox have backpacks, but their own arms. The medic is fine, as just arms.
Which weapons (in 6th ed rules for now) aren't worth using with Tempestus?
The Meltagun is only 12" range, which is shorter than the 18" for the HS Lasguns. They prefer 9" for Rapid Fire, though, so that's OK.
Is a medic worth having in a 5-man squad? The same with the platoon standard.

With that few of them, I'd take them as a platoon and drop them in as three melticide squads.

 Ailaros wrote:
With that few of them, I'd take them as a platoon and drop them in as three melticide squads.

This.

I am in the same boat. I am using one as a basis for a Carapace command squad (three out of the five, I already have a medic and one of the gunners) and the other two boxes as a ten man squad with either meltas or vollyguns. I will most likely be DSing them, although I do have a taurox with a missile rack if I wanted to run one.

You definitely want to make the Plasma and Melta guns. Lots of people are still on the fence about whether Volley guns are any good for the price (think they should have been 5pts).

I would run it this way-
Command Squad 3 plasma
Scion squad 2 melta
Scion squad 1 melta or proxy for 2.

I run them as IG Platoon.

With 10 Scions, its Command Squad in Taurox Prime and Plasmasquad deep striking. With 15 I would go to Command in Chimera, and either give it Augur array and deep strike plasma and melta (keep it various) close to them or drop augur and put them into two primes as fast glass cannon.

 Ailaros wrote:
With that few of them, I'd take them as a platoon and drop them in as three melticide squads.

With Krak, that's probably what I'll do.
Pity, as the models are quite nice.

Any suggestions on the serg?

A 5-man stormtrooper squad isn't likely to survive after its single round of shooting. That's why the call it melticide, not meltihaveanicetime.

I'd keep the sergeants blank, or if you really must, give them a plasma pistol.

I would also run them as a platoon. 3 units of 5 with double melta or plasma are both good. Another option is a 10 man with plasma and vox with a prime with vox to give them FRFSRF.

The units also make for great counts as CCS' with 4 plasma. When you give the unit tank hunters or ignore cover it makes for one of the best vehicle and monster killers in the game (drop it out of a vendetta).

Yeah, actually.

They'd make better carapace guardsmen. Unless you really want them as stormtroopers, of course.

Either 3 five man squads with plasma/metla, or 2 squads with plasma/melta and a Command squad kitted a bit for asault; The commander is WS4 I4, so putting a flag and a power sword could be a ok thing, but still got to survive a round of getting shot at. And Overwatch.

So, it'll looking to turn out to be:

Command squad in the Chimera for assault (Power weapon, Standard and medic, with vox).
5-man in Taurox, with Plasmas and vox. Might have to upgrade the pistol.
5-man for deep-strike with Meltas.

I know that orders won't work on the Plasma squad until they pile out of the 'rox, so that will only get them into range.

I would not put them in transports. When you put scions into a transport you are making them into overpriced carapace veterans that are a little worse at their job. Scions get DS for a reason and they pay for that ability.

I think DS the command squad with 4 special weapons and DS two scions squads with two weapons each, get the command to order itself and you have amazing alpha strike capability, also considering you are rolling for them all at once for reserves cause they are a platoon. No point taking them as troops, they are gonna die anyway, too high priority of a threat. They will suck at assault. Period, I think you will be disappointed. Only way I see transports working is doing dakka taurox primes with two hot shot volley guns each move 12 fire both, repeat.

MaxZ wrote:
, also considering you are rolling for them all at once for reserves cause they are a platoon.

That rule didn't make it into the AM book, is it part of the MT codex?

 grendel083 wrote:

MaxZ wrote:
, also considering you are rolling for them all at once for reserves cause they are a platoon.

That rule didn't make it into the AM book, is it part of the MT codex?

Only if you take one of the formations.