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So, for those who bought the new White Dwarf (15), there was an interesting DE formation for Apoc, which brings up an interesting question, at least to me.

Formation consists of three Raiders, some guys inside them (who are unimportant for this debate) and some Reavers. When they deploy, they do not start on the board but are instead placed on during the first turn, anywhere they like (within 12" of the leader, who has to get placed first). This is never mentioned as being Deep Strike. The Raiders are then treated as Zooming Flyers for the duration of the turn, and the Reavers are considered to have Turbo-Boosted, although they may still shoot normally. No further restriction is given on movement.

So here's my question: should the Raiders be stationary? Is the placement intended to be the entirety of their movement? Or are they intended to move 18-36" after that, as the compulsory movement for the Zooming flyers they are counting as? Can the Reavers move normally in their movement phase? (Obviously, they can't Turbo-Boost in the shooting phase.)

Have I missed something?

As they are treated a Zooming flyers arriving onto the board (Reserves ?) I would wager the intent could be that they must move 18"-36" upon arrival?

This would then not work if the Archon is on the board edge though.

That or they simply "count as" zooming flyers and that right there is the entirety of your movement phase.

RaW: Absolutely no idea...

I found that bit to be confusing as well.

For those that don't know, the main reason this matters is that once they have arrived are they allowed to execute a bladevane attack (for Reavers ) or use the Chain Snares (Raiders). Both of these attacks are executed during movement against anything those units fly over.

For now, I'm going with that they do not move any further.

My reasoning is that once placed, the Raiders are considered to be zooming flyers. It just doesn't make sense that a zooming flyer is close enough to the ground to use the chain snares (I know.. logic and 40k.). Same with the Reavers. Once placed, they are considered to have turbo-boosted. Implying that they used the turbo boost move to get where they are... and we have no guidance on where they "started" from to draw the line for the attacks. Finally, I tend to ere on the side of not being able to do something when the rules are unclear.

I tend to agree, Clively, but I didn't want someone to come at me with accusations that I hadn't moved my "Zooming flyer" and was thus cheating.

Well... if they really wanted you to move then I'd be happy to oblige them.

Of course, they might change their minds once they realize it's giving you a "free" attack..

If it says they are placed within 12 inches of the leader and are treated as zooming flyers, my guess is that they are placed within 12 inches of the leader and have "hard to hit" rule, pretty much as if they are flying down to the ground from the sky or webway they happen to have popped out of for a raid(last part me thinking fluff) I would think it makes the opponent have to shoot snapshots(and no template weapons) to hit them and also cant assault a count as zooming flyer. I wouldn't think they would be able to move again once hitting the field for the turn. I'm probably off the mark though

 conker249 wrote:
If it says they are placed within 12 inches of the leader and are treated as zooming flyers, my guess is that they are placed within 12 inches of the leader and have "hard to hit" rule, pretty much as if they are flying down to the ground from the sky or webway they happen to have popped out of for a raid(last part me thinking fluff) I would think it makes the opponent have to shoot snapshots(and no template weapons) to hit them and also cant assault a count as zooming flyer. I wouldn't think they would be able to move again once hitting the field for the turn. I'm probably off the mark though

No, that's actually what I thought they meant, I just didn't want to try to play it that way and get accused of cheating.