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So here's a list I've put together for local tournament play against all comers. I'd love to hear your thoughts! Unless you're TFG, then I wouldn't love to hear your thoughts, but you will share them anyway because you're TFG!

Eldar
Farseer w/Singing spear
5x Rangers
3x Guardian Jetbike
6x Swooping Hawks
3x Dark Reaper w/Reaper launcher; Exarch w/Fast Shot, Marksman's Eye, Reaper launcher
Wave Serpent - Holo-fields, Shuriken cannon, Twin-linked scatter lasers
3x Dark Reaper w/Reaper launcher; Exarch w/Fast Shot, Marksman's Eye, Reaper launcher
Wave Serpent - Shuriken cannon, Twin-linked scatter lasers
War Walker Squadron - 2 x War Walker each with 2x Brightlance

Space Marines
Chapter Tactics - Iron Hands
Chapter Master - Artificer Armor, Jump Pack, Power Fist
Tactical Squad - Missile Launcher, 4x Space Marines, Drop Pod, Sergeant w/Bolt pistol, Bolter
Tactical Squad - Missile Launcher, 4x Space Marines, Sergeant w/Bolt pistol, Bolter
Thunderfire Cannon

Inquisitorial Detachment
Ordo Xenos Inquisitor - Bolt Pistol, Carapace Armour, Chainsword, Psyk-out Grenades, 3x Servo Skulls

It feels pretty solid to me, but then, our own lists always do feel that way to us, don't they?

Thanks very much in advance,

V

Tac squad doesnt really need a drop pod, confused on that choice. Looks Good!

 ninjafiredragon wrote:
Tac squad doesnt really need a drop pod, confused on that choice. Looks Good!

Understandable question!

I love dropping a single tac squad in one corner of an opponent's deployment zone. I find it works best with an artificer armor character to tank for them, as it ups what needs to be allocated to uproot them, but obviously I don't have the points for that in this list! It seems most useful against beastpack/deathstar/FMC lists, as they often have a tougher decision as to whether to waste a turn on them with the big guys or take their chances that their one or two week scoring units can hold them off. Worst case I can drop the pod solo in the backfield as well and just deploy the squad, but I've always found a good spot for them!

Also might not be a bad idea to simply drop them for something else. However, I do like having 4 scoring squads at 1500 points, it does give me options.

Thanks!

V

You can drop the drop pod and the 2 SC on serpents and take shield eternal on the CM plus melta bombs.

Otherwise good luck and have fun!

 Arbiter wrote:
You can drop the drop pod and the 2 SC on serpents and take shield eternal on the CM plus melta bombs.

Otherwise good luck and have fun!

An excellent suggestion -- get out of my head, there's only room in here for one of us!

All kidding aside, that was one of my biggest issues putting together the list -- I don't have a model with the shield eternal but I wanted one. Not sure if I have enough time to build one up. Might have to go for it!

Thanks,

V


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Also, here's what I have available to potentially sub in for the tac squad in a drop pod, or for other elements:

Eldar -- wraithcannon wraithguard, fire dragons, a falcon, two warlocks, Baharroth/Maugan Ra/Jain Zar, Howling Banshees har har har, scorpions with a fist exarch, storm guardians to go with the banshees, another dark reaper, a ML wraithlord and a ML/BL lord, more rangers, a HTH only wraithknight

Marines -- tacticals/sternguard, vanguard vets, any non-named HQ, a HF/MM dreadnought, lots of terminators, scouts with sniper rifles and cloaks, 3 basic bikes, 2 stormtalons and a stormraven, land raiders, a single whirlwind/rhino/razorback, another drop pod

Inquisition -- 7 henchmen, but just with basic weapons, no specials or heavies

I don't get it why Eldar and iron hands?

Is it a lack of models forcing your hand or is it by choice?

If by choice is it for fluff reasons or because you believe that the Eldar lack the necessary tools to accomplish the job at hand?

It's probably because it fits his theme, as both eldar and marines have tools for any job.

As for your model count, keep the list the same till you play it at least twice, then you can see what is good and what is not working.

Pm for any other advice after that, and Good luck!

Hettar wrote:
I don't get it why Eldar and iron hands?

Is it a lack of models forcing your hand or is it by choice?

If by choice is it for fluff reasons or because you believe that the Eldar lack the necessary tools to accomplish the job at hand?

A mixture -- a large percentage of my collection is 1st edition models, so I play them as good old fashioned pirates, fitting with 1E fluff when the craftworlds "didn't get involved". As the paint schemes are my own, I simply selected Iron Hands for rules purposes.

Adding the marines gives me three things I find lacking within my current collection of Eldar models -- (1) troops choices better than storm guardians (not hard), but less expensive than wraithguard plus a spiritseer (also not hard); (2) the Thunderfire for anti-horde I can't match on the Eldar side; and (3) a highly mobile beatstick who doesn't have to stand around for a turn coming out of the transport.

Eldar and marines does make for an odd combination, but I do find that it helps me balance some of the fragility of the Eldar - particularly those I have collected over the years.

Thanks for asking, not the type of question I often see!

Once 7th hits, I'll start the next wave of additions to the army, and we'll get to see who joins the Banshees on the shelf -- and maybe if we're lucky, someone can tag team in off the shelf! Same as the last five edition changes...

Cheers,

V


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 Arbiter wrote:
It's probably because it fits his theme, as both eldar and marines have tools for any job.

As for your model count, keep the list the same till you play it at least twice, then you can see what is good and what is not working.

Pm for any other advice after that, and Good luck!

Thanks, good advice, appreciated!

You know what would be funny? If banshees got broken FAQs in 7th ed and because the cheese, prepare your coffins.

I would love to see Jain Zar and the gals ride again!

I suspect that a lot of us would. I have no expectations thereof; so I cannot be disappointed when it doesn't happen.

V

I decided I would add a third double brightlance walker -- because...I completely forgot to pick up a shield to model into the Shield Eternal when I was at the store. Doh!

At any rate, I pulled the singing spear off the farseer, dropped the drop pod and a missile launcher from a tac squad, and took off a holo field from a wave serpent to cover it. Four less toys, one more (walker) boy.

Eldar
Farseer
5x Rangers
3x Guardian Jetbike
6x Swooping Hawks
3x Dark Reaper w/Reaper launcher; Exarch w/Fast Shot, Marksman's Eye, Reaper launcher
Wave Serpent - Shuriken cannon, Twin-linked scatter lasers
3x Dark Reaper w/Reaper launcher; Exarch w/Fast Shot, Marksman's Eye, Reaper launcher
Wave Serpent - Shuriken cannon, Twin-linked scatter lasers
War Walker Squadron - 3 x War Walker each with 2x Brightlance

Space Marines
Chapter Tactics - Iron Hands
Chapter Master - Artificer Armor, Jump Pack, Power Fist
Tactical Squad - Missile Launcher, 4x Space Marines, Sergeant w/Bolt pistol, Bolter
Tactical Squad - 4x Space Marines, Sergeant w/Bolt pistol, Bolter
Thunderfire Cannon

Inquisitorial Detachment
Ordo Xenos Inquisitor - Bolt Pistol, Carapace Armour, Chainsword, Psyk-out Grenades, 3x Servo Skulls

Any other thoughts/suggestions?

Cheers,

V

OK final questions,

1) You have no squads for the CM to hang with, so you can dump a tactical squad for assault marines.

2) The inquisitor isn't doing anything except the skulls, you can decide if hes worth it or not.

Other then that good luck!

 Arbiter wrote:
OK final questions,

1) You have no squads for the CM to hang with, so you can dump a tactical squad for assault marines.

2) The inquisitor isn't doing anything except the skulls, you can decide if hes worth it or not.

Other then that good luck!

Thanks, Arbiter!

1 -- an excellent idea. I probably won't do so for this week, but for next week once assault marines become scoring (but not super-scoring), then I like this even more so!

2 -- yes indeed, you are correct. In certain match ups (Khorne dogs, Sisters, White Scars), the servo skulls are worth their weight in gold. Other games, not so much so. In my trial game with the list, I just had him hang out with a tac squad as an extra body once his job of scout/infiltration prevention was handled. Frankly, he's only there for the skulls. With 40 points of slack in the list, I might consider upgrading him to a psyker, but I can't see anything worth dropping for that at this point -- do you?

Cheers,

V

Both marksmens eyes and jump pack?

 Arbiter wrote:
Both marksmens eyes and jump pack?

Interesting point.