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What exactly is it? Rival company? Metal Models only? Are the models viable for play?

Forgeworld is part of Games Workshop and their models are resin.

Their models are generally viable to play if your opponent/TO/significant-other/whatever agrees to it being played (or in the case of the significant other, bought.)

It's a part of Games Workshop that makes expensive but high quality models to be used in Warhammer and 40K.

Lots of superheavies available from them as well.

They produce the Imperial Armour books that contain all the rules for using their models as well as army lists such as the Armoured Company, Elysian Drop Troops, Death Corps of Krieg, Eldar Corsairs etc...

They also produce the popular Warhammer 30K Heresy models and rulebooks including the Space Marine Primarchs.

From the FW website

Q1. IS FORGE WORLD PART OF GAMES WORKSHOP.
A1. Yes, but we operate as a small (but perfectly formed) separate division from the company that makes and sells the main Games Workshop range of products. We are not connected with the US company that used the same name many years back for production of resin Warhammer 40,000 vehicles under licence.

There more premium and have there own rulebooks and writing. It they make the advanced kits, titans, thinderhawks, but also Hersey era equipment.

Also things like death korps, drop troops and other models that are not done in plastic for IG. / am

Same game just different arm of games workshop, they have books like houroys Hersey, impirial amour and such for rules.

Same company, resin models only, yes.

I think this has been asked several times in the last month. Forge world is a sister company to GW and is responsible in focusing on pre herecy & Titan sized stuff. They usually produce a much higher quality detailed model but that is where you will see the super high prices when shopping with them.

its epic models that can be used in place of normal ones, or all new ones that are just or more as epic with their own rules that, barring approval by your opponent/TO, can be added into the normal 40k games.

Anything labeled Apoc Only is just what it sounds like - meaning no normal gameplay for that piece. I dont THINK anything falls under that category unless its unusually large lol

I see, this is good to know as they have the Dreadnought I wanna add to my collection

 kerikhaos wrote:
I think this has been asked several times in the last month. Forge world is a sister company to GW and is responsible in focusing on pre herecy & Titan sized stuff. They usually produce a much higher quality detailed model but that is where you will see the super high prices when shopping with them.

close but no cigar.

i think you need to go review the FW page mate. the prices are NOT super high. infact for me its almost CHEAPER to buy the models from FW than GW, shipping is free with any order. its also is you spend the right amount (250 quid) expressed to you (4 days to me in aus)
they do NOT focus on titans and pre heresy, go look at the model range. all that fantasy stuff, the huge range of normal sized models. they are the supplier of titans but model count wise, they are a drop in the pond compared to all the other things they make.
they arent a sister company. they are a division of GW, like citadel etc.

their models are all made to be played in a game of 40k, you will find some pedants who will argue but that either because they are mis-informed and generally dont know better. over the last year and more iv seen less and less hate towards the FW debate and its become a fair piece of we agree some is OTT but thats a small portion and those are considered a bit rude to play. ( but seeing as we have escalation now and your only source of a titan is FW.... well they are legit are they not.. etc)

 ausYenLoWang wrote:

 kerikhaos wrote:
I think this has been asked several times in the last month. Forge world is a sister company to GW and is responsible in focusing on pre herecy & Titan sized stuff. They usually produce a much higher quality detailed model but that is where you will see the super high prices when shopping with them.

close but no cigar.

i think you need to go review the FW page mate. the prices are NOT super high. infact for me its almost CHEAPER to buy the models from FW than GW, shipping is free with any order. its also is you spend the right amount (250 quid) expressed to you (4 days to me in aus)
they do NOT focus on titans and pre heresy, go look at the model range. all that fantasy stuff, the huge range of normal sized models. they are the supplier of titans but model count wise, they are a drop in the pond compared to all the other things they make.
they arent a sister company. they are a division of GW, like citadel etc.

their models are all made to be played in a game of 40k, you will find some pedants who will argue but that either because they are mis-informed and generally dont know better. over the last year and more iv seen less and less hate towards the FW debate and its become a fair piece of we agree some is OTT but thats a small portion and those are considered a bit rude to play. ( but seeing as we have escalation now and your only source of a titan is FW.... well they are legit are they not.. etc)

However you see them in your personal view they are a much higher cost for model collecting when you put plastic vs plastic in quantity terms. They are better modeled even though I hear some peeps have bought FW stuff where they needed to warp back some details etc but any case if you buy from them the charge will be higher than what you would spend in a GW. The other fact with GW stuff most people have found amazing companies retail and online who sell official GW with a standard 25-30% discount inc free delivery. You don't have to buy from GW to get better deals FW stuff is much harder to purchase as even eBay charges a bomb load for something FW related.

Ok maybe they aren't focused just on pre heresy stuff as I've not checked their latest lineup but they do cater a lot for space marine chapters during 30k like Contemptor dreds and old style land raiders etc

Forgeworld also seems to have more sense, competence, and freedom of design than GW. Why aren't they in charge again?

Note that Foregworld also deals differently to GW. Foregeworld only sell direct, they do not sell any of their items through distribution channels or retailers.

This means that the price on the Foregeworld site is the only price the model is going to be when bought new from the retail chain. Some stores might order in FW items for you, but they have to get them off the site same as everyone else.

As a result if you find retailers offering FW stuff way under FW prices chances are its either:
1) Stock clearance (rare since few retailers will stock FW in bulk because there is basically no profit)

2) Illegal recasting - which is a much more common situation where you see the lower FW prices.

 Overread wrote:
Not that Foregworld also deals differently to GW. Foregeworld only sell direct, they do not sell any of their items through distribution channels or retailers.

This means that the price on the Foregeworld site is the only price the model is going to be when bought new from the retail chain. Some stores might order in FW items for you, but they have to get them off the site same as everyone else.

As a result if you find retailers offering FW stuff way under FW prices chances are its either:
1) Stock clearance (rare since few retailers will stock FW in bulk because there is basically no profit)

2) Illegal recasting - which is a much more common situation where you see the lower FW prices.

Totally agree

They're a subsidiary of the main GW entity. They're somewhat independent of the main company's policies as far as advertising and production, but they're still part of GW.

 kerikhaos wrote:

However you see them in your personal view they are a much higher cost for model collecting when you put plastic vs plastic in quantity terms.

That really depends on how awful the regular GW prices are where you live.

For me in New Zealand, I could spend 87 NZD on a squad of 5 regular GW terminators.
Or I could spend 36£ on a squad of 5 forgeworld terminators, which google tells me currently converts to 71 NZD.

 kerikhaos wrote:

 ausYenLoWang wrote:

 kerikhaos wrote:
I think this has been asked several times in the last month. Forge world is a sister company to GW and is responsible in focusing on pre herecy & Titan sized stuff. They usually produce a much higher quality detailed model but that is where you will see the super high prices when shopping with them.

close but no cigar.

i think you need to go review the FW page mate. the prices are NOT super high. infact for me its almost CHEAPER to buy the models from FW than GW, shipping is free with any order. its also is you spend the right amount (250 quid) expressed to you (4 days to me in aus)
they do NOT focus on titans and pre heresy, go look at the model range. all that fantasy stuff, the huge range of normal sized models. they are the supplier of titans but model count wise, they are a drop in the pond compared to all the other things they make.
they arent a sister company. they are a division of GW, like citadel etc.

their models are all made to be played in a game of 40k, you will find some pedants who will argue but that either because they are mis-informed and generally dont know better. over the last year and more iv seen less and less hate towards the FW debate and its become a fair piece of we agree some is OTT but thats a small portion and those are considered a bit rude to play. ( but seeing as we have escalation now and your only source of a titan is FW.... well they are legit are they not.. etc)

However you see them in your personal view they are a much higher cost for model collecting when you put plastic vs plastic in quantity terms. They are better modeled even though I hear some peeps have bought FW stuff where they needed to warp back some details etc but any case if you buy from them the charge will be higher than what you would spend in a GW. The other fact with GW stuff most people have found amazing companies retail and online who sell official GW with a standard 25-30% discount inc free delivery. You don't have to buy from GW to get better deals FW stuff is much harder to purchase as even eBay charges a bomb load for something FW related.

Ok maybe they aren't focused just on pre heresy stuff as I've not checked their latest lineup but they do cater a lot for space marine chapters during 30k like Contemptor dreds and old style land raiders etc

just quietly have you seen the aus pricing, predators from FW are cheaper, if i spend a few hundred bucks i get free delivery expressed to me, which btw GW want i believe $85 in a purchase for free delivery in aus now.. GW base pricing is a joke, now i have a supplier here in aus that does 25% off and its STILL cheaper in some cases to go FW. and the FW stuff looks better.

now as to "warping" have you seen the base GW resin? or finecast... its an abomination, FW does have some moulds that are getting a bit long in the tooth, the thunderhawk for example, so yeah but slight warping.. meh it happens and nothing that warm water cant fix, which with resin you should be using as part of cleaning pre painting anyway

That's the main factor here - GW seem to be ripping you off over in aus with bad conversion rates ( which I guess it to do with import tax) plus a hefty fine for delivery. In this respect I totally agree with you FW is a bargain when you compare these important factors. What about buying new GW from eBay does it help at all with conversion prices?

its not the conversion rate, i saw someone did the math on GW prices UK to US is about the same value with conversion, but coming to aus it dies in the ass.

they cite, cost of doing business and cost of living.and some other bogus factors as to why.

short version if i desperately want something NOW as a GW product i buy it from a company that does 25% off RRP in aus, if i can wait, i have friends in america, who can do "things" for me and i wait for postage.

i have taken a liking to FW models though, some of them are very very nice and def nicer than GW stuff

 ausYenLoWang wrote:
its not the conversion rate, i saw someone did the math on GW prices UK to US is about the same value with conversion, but coming to aus it dies in the ass.

they cite, cost of doing business and cost of living.and some other bogus factors as to why.

short version if i desperately want something NOW as a GW product i buy it from a company that does 25% off RRP in aus, if i can wait, i have friends in america, who can do "things" for me and i wait for postage.

i have taken a liking to FW models though, some of them are very very nice and def nicer than GW stuff

Well obviously without a doubt FW models are more detailed that's a fact laid down in stone. It's a shame that GW seem to think it's ok charging silly prices in specific parts of the world.