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Anyone noticed this? I couldn't find it.

Does this mean the only requirement for a unit to get a warlord trait is that he be a character and chosen as your warlord?

thus, can a tank commander/bjorn always be your warlord?

The character requirement is also gone. A warlord that isn't a character just doesn't get a warlord trait (though obviously non-character warlords, like tank commanders, that explicitly get warlord traits are an exception to the rule).

If that doesn't get FAQ'ed, then that would make Harath Shen and Brayarth Ashmantle much more attractive picks.

 Peregrine wrote:
The character requirement is also gone. A warlord that isn't a character just doesn't get a warlord trait (though obviously non-character warlords, like tank commanders, that explicitly get warlord traits are an exception to the rule).

BRB 124: "Unless specified otherwise, this must be a character model." In bold, second sentence on the page.

I don't know anything yet that specifies otherwise, so your Warlord needs to be a character.

so i can have a c'tan shard since it is a character but not an HQ choice?

 Elric Greywolf wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:
The character requirement is also gone. A warlord that isn't a character just doesn't get a warlord trait (though obviously non-character warlords, like tank commanders, that explicitly get warlord traits are an exception to the rule).

BRB 124: "Unless specified otherwise, this must be a character model." In bold, second sentence on the page.

I don't know anything yet that specifies otherwise, so your Warlord needs to be a character.

The very next sentence allows non-characters to be your Warlord, but only if you don't have any Character models at all.

 Cheexsta wrote:

 Elric Greywolf wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:
The character requirement is also gone. A warlord that isn't a character just doesn't get a warlord trait (though obviously non-character warlords, like tank commanders, that explicitly get warlord traits are an exception to the rule).

BRB 124: "Unless specified otherwise, this must be a character model." In bold, second sentence on the page.

I don't know anything yet that specifies otherwise, so your Warlord needs to be a character.

The very next sentence allows non-characters to be your Warlord, but only if you don't have any Character models at all.

That will be very rare, at least. An army of Defilers and Soul Grinders would need the exception, I suppose.

 Jimsolo wrote:
If that doesn't get FAQ'ed, then that would make Harath Shen and Brayarth Ashmantle much more attractive picks.

I have a scarier proposition, justicar thawn from the grey knights as a warlord. Goodluck getting slay the warlord- that is still an objective, right?

 Peregrine wrote:
The character requirement is also gone. A warlord that isn't a character just doesn't get a warlord trait (though obviously non-character warlords, like tank commanders, that explicitly get warlord traits are an exception to the rule).

Tank commanders are characters.

Gealgain,
It depends on the mission we are playing, but the original six are still there and the additional six appear to have it as a Secondary Objective as well.


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The... I want to call it 'unglued' Army option does appear to be a little easy to break:

Deck out a Far-sight Enclave riptide with survival gear, make it your Warlord in a 2000 point Army of Riptides.
Landraider as a warlord would be an interesting one, Choas have a lot of large vehicles that could ensure a characterless army.
A Massive Structure with AV 15 all around would be nice, do we get to include Fortifications on that list of choices?
Or what about a Lord of War choice as warlord?

JinxDragon wrote:
Gealgain,
It depends on the mission we are playing, but the original six are still there and the additional six appear to have it as a Secondary Objective as well.


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The... I want to call it 'unglued' Army option does appear to be a little easy to break:

Deck out a Far-sight Enclave riptide with survival gear, make it your Warlord in a 2000 point Army of Riptides.
Landraider as a warlord would be an interesting one, Choas have a lot of large vehicles that could ensure a characterless army.
A Massive Structure with AV 15 all around would be nice, do we get to include Fortifications on that list of choices?
Or what about a Lord of War choice as warlord?

A riptide? An r'varna, dude!

T7 with 6 wounds on a 2+4++, access to FNP... it's unkillable at range and almost untouchable up close.

Tyranids could field a Battle forged list with no characters by taking Tervigons as their HQ.

Scipio Africanus,
You should see the smile growing across my face, I didn't even think of ForgeWorld Models that would make broken Warlords.

 Peregrine wrote:
The character requirement is also gone. A warlord that isn't a character just doesn't get a warlord trait (though obviously non-character warlords, like tank commanders, that explicitly get warlord traits are an exception to the rule).

Tank commanders ARE characters.

I'm just happy I can have a Kustom Mekadredd as my Warlord, and take other HQ's now

JinxDragon wrote:
Scipio Africanus,
You should see the smile growing across my face, I didn't even think of ForgeWorld Models that would make broken Warlords.

O'vesa? O'varna, amiright?!

It also means that O'vesa can be your warlord while you're running farsight, as a note.


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 Kommissar Kel wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:
The character requirement is also gone. A warlord that isn't a character just doesn't get a warlord trait (though obviously non-character warlords, like tank commanders, that explicitly get warlord traits are an exception to the rule).

Tank commanders ARE characters.

Actually Kel, Tank Commanders are TANKS.

Ahem. But yes. I noticed this discrepancy too.

 Scipio Africanus wrote:

JinxDragon wrote:
Scipio Africanus,
You should see the smile growing across my face, I didn't even think of ForgeWorld Models that would make broken Warlords.

O'vesa? O'varna, amiright?!

It also means that O'vesa can be your warlord while you're running farsight, as a note.


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 Kommissar Kel wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:
The character requirement is also gone. A warlord that isn't a character just doesn't get a warlord trait (though obviously non-character warlords, like tank commanders, that explicitly get warlord traits are an exception to the rule).

Tank commanders ARE characters.

Actually Kel, Tank Commanders are TANKS.

Ahem. But yes. I noticed this discrepancy too.

In order to get O'vesa in a battle forged army, you still need Farsight to be your warlord. Unbound on the other hand, you don't need Farsight.

 Scipio Africanus wrote:

 Kommissar Kel wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:
The character requirement is also gone. A warlord that isn't a character just doesn't get a warlord trait (though obviously non-character warlords, like tank commanders, that explicitly get warlord traits are an exception to the rule).

Tank commanders ARE characters.

Actually Kel, Tank Commanders are TANKS.

Ahem. But yes. I noticed this discrepancy too.

As per the Tank Commander rule:

"The Tank Commander's Tank is a Character"

Yes it's a tank. It's also a character.

Nilok wrote:
In order to get O'vesa in a battle forged army, you still need Farsight to be your warlord. Unbound on the other hand, you don't need Farsight.

You just need farsight to get O'vesa. the 8 replaces farsight's standard bodyguard unit, that's the only reason you must take farsight.

Kel:

Scipio Africanus wrote:
Tank commanders are characters.

Kommissar Kel wrote:
Actually Kel, Tank Commanders are TANKS.

Ahem. But yes. I noticed this discrepancy too.

Way to read the whole post, eh Kel?

 Scipio Africanus wrote:

Nilok wrote:
In order to get O'vesa in a battle forged army, you still need Farsight to be your warlord. Unbound on the other hand, you don't need Farsight.

You just need farsight to get O'vesa. the 8 replaces farsight's standard bodyguard unit, that's the only reason you must take farsight.

I thought the FE FAQ/Errata changed it to requiring him to be your Warlord?

rigeld2 wrote:

 Scipio Africanus wrote:

Nilok wrote:
In order to get O'vesa in a battle forged army, you still need Farsight to be your warlord. Unbound on the other hand, you don't need Farsight.

You just need farsight to get O'vesa. the 8 replaces farsight's standard bodyguard unit, that's the only reason you must take farsight.

I thought the FE FAQ/Errata changed it to requiring him to be your Warlord?

That may be the case, If it is, I was not aware.

It is the case, the reason why I was more interested in the R'Varna and how that will make people cry if you make lists designed to promote it to Warlord.

JinxDragon wrote:
It is the case, the reason why I was more interested in the R'Varna and how that will make people cry if you make lists designed to promote it to Warlord.

Didn't know that. Now I do I guess.

 Scipio Africanus wrote:

Nilok wrote:
In order to get O'vesa in a battle forged army, you still need Farsight to be your warlord. Unbound on the other hand, you don't need Farsight.

You just need farsight to get O'vesa. the 8 replaces farsight's standard bodyguard unit, that's the only reason you must take farsight.

Kel:

Scipio Africanus wrote:
Tank commanders are characters.

Kommissar Kel wrote:
Actually Kel, Tank Commanders are TANKS.

Ahem. But yes. I noticed this discrepancy too.

Way to read the whole post, eh Kel?

Did you seriously just mis-attribute what YOU said to me?

Seriously You wrote what you quoted.

Also Tank Commanders are Vehicle(Tank, Heavy, Character) so along with whatever mess you just made of yourself, you were also wrong.

Misread you. Misquoted myself. Woops.