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Thoughts on this idea since independent characters can join characters to forge a super group?

Mephiston trading his powers for biomancy joined by three Sanquinary priests, all with power fists and jump packs.

Assume Mephy's rules stay the same as in 6th (only trading for two powers) there's basically nothing bad in the list. Iron arm makes the unit near-unkillable, and all the priests are S10 AP2. Mephiston can become T8 with FNP and even if you roll for something lackluster you still have the ability for Mephiston to cast smite and fire his plasma pistol for a whole bunch of AP2 shots.

If you get a challenge against something sub-optimal (like termies) you simply accept the challenge with a priest.

Well for the first turn mephy wont have his jump pack and will be moving very slowly. Also remember that if he trades for biomancy he loses his jump pack.

Also with three in the unit the majority toughness will still be 4 so not much help there.

All in all it feels very lackluster and cant do everything you want it to at once.

Crud, forgot about losing his pack. Hmmm... I'll find a way to make this madness work!

I'd think first response would be about him not even being an IC..

 Kirasu wrote:
I'd think first response would be about him not even being an IC..

Exalted.

1. Ally in some Marines with an undedicated Land Raider.

2. Fill it up with Mephiston, Priests and Chapter Masters, or whatever.

3. Profit.


Btw, Mephiston gets 3 powers now. It's in the digital edition of the codex.

 Kirasu wrote:
I'd think first response would be about him not even being an IC..

Yeah but the restriction on the ICs joining single model units has now gone. So the priests can join him, just not the other way around.

I love this idea, even if it's not actually a good one. You could take corbulo, a few normal priests and maybe a chaplain and join all of them to mephiston, and then put the unit in a landraider...

Just grab a space marines jump Chapter Master and tag team it around the board.

Put him on a bike with SE/TH/AA and have them run together. Tank wounds on the CM that require invulns, otherwise "LOS" to Mephy.

Even better, add in a Sanguinary priest, who is also an IC, and give Mephi FNP.

Since the unit is T6, T5, and T4, all in one, I imagine you can still use the highest toughness value in a three way tie? So T6 for wounding purposes?

Edit: Add in St. Celestine for Hit & Run. She's T3, so now its T6, T5, T4, T3 and probably still using T6.

Screw that man, take the heros of the imperium from the old box

Dante, Logan, Marneus. Azrael, and throw in lysander for gaks and giggles. All attached to Mephiston in a storm raven.

Turn three unit removal when they show up and bro out

MLKTH wrote:
I love this idea, even if it's not actually a good one. You could take corbulo, a few normal priests and maybe a chaplain and join all of them to mephiston, and then put the unit in a landraider...

That's the spirit! Hey, I know it's not competitive -- but for weird relaxed games I want to see what happens.

Is this a wish list for the new codex to come or what, Meph still isn't an IC, but an unique character, therefore he still can't join or be joined by other characters.
Meph rides alone, maybe it will change, but that is music for the future, otherwise this post is very confusing and false.

 schriemer wrote:
Is this a wish list for the new codex to come or what, Meph still isn't an IC, but an unique character, therefore he still can't join or be joined by other characters.
Meph rides alone, maybe it will change, but that is music for the future, otherwise this post is very confusing and false.

That's not actually a rule.
There's nothing preventing an IC from joining him.
He can't join anything, but IC's can join him.

 schriemer wrote:
Is this a wish list for the new codex to come or what, Meph still isn't an IC, but an unique character, therefore he still can't join or be joined by other characters.
Meph rides alone, maybe it will change, but that is music for the future, otherwise this post is very confusing and false.

Great, can you post the rule and page that states independent characters can't join unique characters? Then we can lock this thread and go home.

That is, assuming you haven't totally made it up and posted for no reason at all?

 schriemer wrote:
Is this a wish list for the new codex to come or what, Meph still isn't an IC, but an unique character, therefore he still can't join or be joined by other characters.
Meph rides alone, maybe it will change, but that is music for the future, otherwise this post is very confusing and false.

I'm starting to wonder if people actually bought the new book and have read it before commenting, or are just like "nah... I don't need that, I'm going to try and flame instead."

Edit: I suppose I could have phrased this with less snark, so let me try again.

Look at the top of page 166 (Independent characters), now I'll ask "Is Mephiston a monstrous creature or vehicle?" then finish up with "Are Sanguinary priests independent characters?"

That should probably help whatever confusion you're having and answer your query whether it's false.

Well it is nice to see that 7th fixed the problem in the previous editions with Meph not being able to join or be joined by other characters, this opens up a bunch of diverent configs for using him, starting this post with this change would have saved some confusion on the issue

or you could have read the rules before commenting on them.

Ok, so incorporating everyone's favourite Chaplain (well, maybe not)

Mephiston T6
Cassius T6
Marneus Calgar T4
Tigerius T4
Inquisitor T3
Celestine T3

Celestine is adding some nice rules but that's a whole new combined arms detachment (assuming you're not unbound) so maybe a second inquisitor (has to be Coteaz)

All in a raider

Happy days!

random_man wrote:

Yeah but the restriction on the ICs joining single model units has now gone. So the priests can join him, just not the other way around.

This is how I envision that rule working before each battle in the Blood Angel locker room.

This screams of so much win, I'm dancing in my chair at work like a kid hopped up on sugar.

Y'know what? Just because, i'm going to build this to a 10 man team and then throw them out the back of my Stormraven as it zooms by.

Doing all of this while blaring the Team America theme song.

random_man wrote:
Ok, so incorporating everyone's favourite Chaplain (well, maybe not)

Mephiston T6
Cassius T6
Marneus Calgar T4
Tigerius T4
Inquisitor T3
Celestine T3

Celestine is adding some nice rules but that's a whole new combined arms detachment (assuming you're not unbound) so maybe a second inquisitor (has to be Coteaz)

All in a raider

Happy days!

Celestine has a Jumppack, no raider for her. Replace her with Coteaz for seize protection.

Any invuln? Because otherwise, Vanquishers with Beast Hunter shells will have a field day with this unit.

Mephiston with the priests, that is.