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2014/05/26 01:53:41
Subject: Single Most OP 7th ed list/ True Power of the Warp 2500 points
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Houston, Texas
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HQ
-Lord of Change with Mastery Level 3, Corpulescence, Unbreakable Hide 295 points Rolling powers on Malefic, with Summoning and Possession (for hilarious invincibility hax) ideal
-Lord of Change with Mastery Level 3, Corpulescence, Unbreakable Hide 295 points Rolling powers on Malefic, with Summoning and Possession (for hilarious invincibility hax) ideal
-Be'lakor the Dark Master with Mastery Level 3 rolling on Malefic with Summoning and Sacrifice 350 points
Troops
-10 man Pink Horror unit Rolling on Malefic with Possession Ideal 90 points
-10 man Pink Horror unit Rolling on Malefic with Possession Ideal 90 points
-10 man Pink Horror unit Rolling on Malefic with Possession Ideal 90 points
-10 man Pink Horror unit Rolling on Malefic with Possession Ideal 90 points
-10 man Pink Horror unit Rolling on Malefic with Possession Ideal 90 points
-10 man Pink Horror unit Rolling on Malefic with Possession Ideal 90 points
Chaos Marine Allies
-Chaos Sorceror with Mastery Level 3 w/ Summoning 110 points
Troops
-15 man Chaos Marine unit 250 points
-15 man Chaos Marine unit 250 points
Heavy Support
-Fire Raptor w/ Avenger Bolt Cannon, Two Quad Heavy Bolters, and 4 Tempest Rockets 200 points (feth your Heldrakes)
-Fire Raptor w/ Avenger Bolt Cannon, Two Quad Heavy Bolters, and 4 Tempest Rockets 200 points (feth your Heldrakes)
Total: 2490 points
I played this game with a set of 6 loaded dice that rolled 6's whenever an invisible button on top was pressed, to see what this list could do.
Seeing 6 90 point squads worth 540 points turn into 6 big beefy Bloodthirsters worth 1500 points bum rush the opponent was an unbelievably hilarious feeling. He was playing guard and had no psykers. He didn't deny one.
As the Lords of Change, Belakor, THE 6 BlOODTHIRSTERS, and 2 Fireraptors bum rushed him he was tabled turn 2 with a horde Guard army.
Yeah.....
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/05/26 17:09:18
Finally found my quote from a gym buddy born and raised in South Korea:
"It is the soldier, not the reporter who has given us the freedom of the press.
"It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us the freedom of speech.
"It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who gives us the freedom to demonstrate.
"It is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag." |
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2014/05/26 02:17:33
Subject: Re:Single Most OP 7th ed list/ True Power of the Warp 2500 points
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Fully-charged Electropriest
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Be'Lakor can't take Malefic he doesn't roll from any he just knows all of telepathy.
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2014/05/26 02:27:43
Subject: Re:Single Most OP 7th ed list/ True Power of the Warp 2500 points
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Houston, Texas
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 Tyrius wrote:Be'Lakor can't take Malefic he doesn't roll from any he just knows all of telepathy.
That's only by default, and him not having other options is also incredibly stupid, given what knowing all powers of a discipline implies of his ability.
Again only by befault. You can roll normally if you choose.
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Finally found my quote from a gym buddy born and raised in South Korea:
"It is the soldier, not the reporter who has given us the freedom of the press.
"It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us the freedom of speech.
"It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who gives us the freedom to demonstrate.
"It is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag." |
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2014/05/26 02:31:24
Subject: Re:Single Most OP 7th ed list/ True Power of the Warp 2500 points
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Fully-charged Electropriest
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Oh show me where be'lakor is given the option to not have the powers listed and roll somewhere else?
Because something is stupid doesn't mean you can make rules up to apply to what you think it should be. He doesn't have the option to generate powers from any other discipline but he knows all of the telepathy. NOTHING says otherwise.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2014/05/26 02:42:56
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2014/05/26 02:46:22
Subject: Re:Single Most OP 7th ed list/ True Power of the Warp 2500 points
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Houston, Texas
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Tyrius wrote:Oh show me where be'lakor is given the option to not have the powers listed and roll somewhere else?
Because something is stupid doesn't mean you can make rules up to apply to what you think it should be. He doesn't have the option to generate powers from any other discipline but he knows all of the telepathy. NOTHING says otherwise.
The text is "By Default".
Interpret that as you will but because of how stupid not to have other options would be, I interpreted it the way I did.
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Finally found my quote from a gym buddy born and raised in South Korea:
"It is the soldier, not the reporter who has given us the freedom of the press.
"It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us the freedom of speech.
"It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who gives us the freedom to demonstrate.
"It is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag." |
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2014/05/26 02:52:11
Subject: Re:Single Most OP 7th ed list/ True Power of the Warp 2500 points
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Fully-charged Electropriest
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Oh I agree it is stupid, but there is nowhere it says otherwise. I was under same impression you were.  Then it was pointed out his pysker profile doesn't let him generate other disciplines.
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2014/05/26 03:53:22
Subject: Single Most OP 7th ed list/ True Power of the Warp 2500 points
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Why would you want to reroll Be'lakor at all??? He gets the second most broken power in the game automatically: Invisibility.
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The 7th Edition FAQ is out!
Pink Horrors can summon.
Daemon Factory is legal! |
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2014/05/26 05:10:52
Subject: Single Most OP 7th ed list/ True Power of the Warp 2500 points
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
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So, you 'used loaded dice' that always roll 6's and you won? Great.
In reality, you don't actually have that many power dice. Max 24 for the first turn of the game. rolling 4 dice on posession gives you only a 31% chance of success.
Also in reality, a deep striking blood thirster must come in as swooping. Then it spends a turn changing to gliding. Then it may assault, the third turn that it is on the board.
At least bump all your horror squads up by a single model to get +1 power dice each...
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2014/05/26 17:11:37
Subject: Single Most OP 7th ed list/ True Power of the Warp 2500 points
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Houston, Texas
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Trasvi wrote:So, you 'used loaded dice' that always roll 6's and you won? Great.
In reality, you don't actually have that many power dice. Max 24 for the first turn of the game. rolling 4 dice on posession gives you only a 31% chance of success.
Also in reality, a deep striking blood thirster must come in as swooping. Then it spends a turn changing to gliding. Then it may assault, the third turn that it is on the board.
At least bump all your horror squads up by a single model to get +1 power dice each...
24 power dice, is enough to morph all 6 squads into 'Thirsters, and summon 20 Bloodletters.
Brotherhood of psykers to my knowedge means a 20 man squad would still generate 1 charge.
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Finally found my quote from a gym buddy born and raised in South Korea:
"It is the soldier, not the reporter who has given us the freedom of the press.
"It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us the freedom of speech.
"It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who gives us the freedom to demonstrate.
"It is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag." |
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2014/05/26 17:35:42
Subject: Single Most OP 7th ed list/ True Power of the Warp 2500 points
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Check the Pink horror rules (as pointed out in 11s they get more WC). Your Bloodthirsters can't assault until turn 3 and casting 8 warp charge 3 powers with 24 dice means you were rolling trick dice. So yes it is possible to win turn 2 easily if you cheat lots. What's so OP about a list that wins when you cheat lots?
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2014/05/26 17:44:04
Subject: Single Most OP 7th ed list/ True Power of the Warp 2500 points
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Houston, Texas
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 FlingitNow wrote:Check the Pink horror rules (as pointed out in 11s they get more WC). Your Bloodthirsters can't assault until turn 3 and casting 8 warp charge 3 powers with 24 dice means you were rolling trick dice. So yes it is possible to win turn 2 easily if you cheat lots. What's so OP about a list that wins when you cheat lots?
They can swoop turn 1, due to deepstriking counting as a 12 inch movement.
The fact that it did it so easily, shows what this army can do, when things go it's way.
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Finally found my quote from a gym buddy born and raised in South Korea:
"It is the soldier, not the reporter who has given us the freedom of the press.
"It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us the freedom of speech.
"It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who gives us the freedom to demonstrate.
"It is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag." |
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2014/05/26 17:57:54
Subject: Single Most OP 7th ed list/ True Power of the Warp 2500 points
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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No all FMCs that deepstrike start in swoop mode so can not assault turn 2 as you can't assault whilst in swoop or in the turn you change flight mode. Try the same list against this AM (as you cheated for the Daemons try auto hitting for the AM stuff)
Pask: Punisher, MMs, LCs: 2 Executioners PCs
Commander: Punisher, HBs: 2 Executioners PCs
2 Enginseers
4 Vets in Tauroxes
6 x 2 Wyverns
I bet given first turn it pretty much tables your OP list turn 1...
You can pretty much table anything in 2 turns if you cheat and assume absolute maximum damage output.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/05/26 17:59:37
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2014/05/26 18:00:09
Subject: Re:Single Most OP 7th ed list/ True Power of the Warp 2500 points
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Frightening Flamer of Tzeentch
PNW
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If you're going to summon [all] Greater Daemons (thereby sacrificing your models), why not just take an army of them from the start...
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2014/05/26 18:02:09
Subject: Single Most OP 7th ed list/ True Power of the Warp 2500 points
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Agile Revenant Titan
In the Casualty section of a Blood Bowl dugout
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Seriously? I can think of a lot of lists that, for some unfathomable reason, become OP once you start using loaded dice.
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2014/05/26 18:09:54
Subject: Re:Single Most OP 7th ed list/ True Power of the Warp 2500 points
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Houston, Texas
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Aurelian wrote:If you're going to summon [all] Greater Daemons (thereby sacrificing your models), why not just take an army of them from the start...
Because this way you end up with a 3500 point army, to your opponents 2500.
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Finally found my quote from a gym buddy born and raised in South Korea:
"It is the soldier, not the reporter who has given us the freedom of the press.
"It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us the freedom of speech.
"It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who gives us the freedom to demonstrate.
"It is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag." |
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2014/05/26 18:19:11
Subject: Single Most OP 7th ed list/ True Power of the Warp 2500 points
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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Also cant pink horrors only cast flickering fire? I don't think they draw daemonology powers :/
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2014/05/26 18:45:27
Subject: Single Most OP 7th ed list/ True Power of the Warp 2500 points
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Houston, Texas
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PapaSoul wrote:Also cant pink horrors only cast flickering fire? I don't think they draw daemonology powers :/
Naw they can have change powers, and now they can probably have Daemonology.
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Finally found my quote from a gym buddy born and raised in South Korea:
"It is the soldier, not the reporter who has given us the freedom of the press.
"It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us the freedom of speech.
"It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who gives us the freedom to demonstrate.
"It is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag." |
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2014/05/26 19:31:01
Subject: Single Most OP 7th ed list/ True Power of the Warp 2500 points
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Heck if you're just assuming you can always get the 6 power and cast with every Warp Charge why not just do this:
CAD - Primary
Herald: lvl3
Herald: lvl3
Herald: lvl2
Herald: lvl3
11 Horrors
11 Horrors
5 x CAD
Herald: lvl3
Herald: lvl3
11 Horrors
11 Horrors
That's 65+d6 WC a turn based on your trick dice thats 71 WC and 23 Bloodthirsters created plus a couple of Heralds. For 5750 points of models created turn 1. That STILL can't charge turn 2...
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2014/05/26 19:36:15
Subject: Single Most OP 7th ed list/ True Power of the Warp 2500 points
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Wow. Just wow. You purposefully cheat your opponent. You are a shame to the 40k gaming community. How is this even a legit "list" if it only works when cheating your opponent? Dear lord. Pretty sure there are quite a few lists that would win just by constantly rolling 6s for the entire game.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2014/05/26 19:37:50
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2014/05/26 19:41:52
Subject: Single Most OP 7th ed list/ True Power of the Warp 2500 points
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Houston, Texas
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 Sigvatr wrote:
Wow. Just wow. You purposefully cheat your opponent. You are a shame to the 40k gaming community.
How is this even a legit "list" if it only works when cheating your opponent? Dear lord.
Pretty sure there are quite a few lists that would win just by constantly rolling 6s for the entire game.
Dude I love you 
A one time act of Dickery makes me a shame?
Get your gak out of here.
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Finally found my quote from a gym buddy born and raised in South Korea:
"It is the soldier, not the reporter who has given us the freedom of the press.
"It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us the freedom of speech.
"It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who gives us the freedom to demonstrate.
"It is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag." |
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2014/05/26 19:45:13
Subject: Single Most OP 7th ed list/ True Power of the Warp 2500 points
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Yes. If you purposefully cheat an opponent, you are the worst kind of player. Hands down.
Some people cheat on accident because they forget or don't know rules. Purposefully cheating, however, is the lowest of the low and shows how poor of a player you are.
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2014/05/26 21:47:32
Subject: Single Most OP 7th ed list/ True Power of the Warp 2500 points
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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 ThePrimordial wrote: Sigvatr wrote:
Wow. Just wow. You purposefully cheat your opponent. You are a shame to the 40k gaming community.
How is this even a legit "list" if it only works when cheating your opponent? Dear lord.
Pretty sure there are quite a few lists that would win just by constantly rolling 6s for the entire game.
Dude I love you
A one time act of Dickery makes me a shame?
Get your gak out of here.
Nope, I scrolled through the thread and thought you were a shame too. You got belakor wrong, used an donkey-cave list and cheated on top of that.
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2014/05/26 22:24:52
Subject: Single Most OP 7th ed list/ True Power of the Warp 2500 points
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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I rolled 7 on the Psychic power table. Power 7 lets me flip the table with your models on it.
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