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As the topic asks, with the change in jink saves meaning our serpents/prisms/falcons have to decide to either neuter their shooting or take more hits does this make the +15 point upgrade worth it anymore? While it still helps when in cover its no longer the almost auto 4+ save it used to be. So, still worth it? or made less auto-take?
   
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Agile Revenant Titan






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I say a for sure yes. That +1 cover is so nice.

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It's a 3+ when you jink, correct?
I'll try them out, I feel having scoring wave serpents that are hard to hit, harder to kill (new damage table) etc. may balance out. They're not as firepower-oriented as before, but with the serpent shield on top... they seem tough.
   
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Haemonculi Flesh Apprentice






Colgado wrote:
As the topic asks, with the change in jink saves meaning our serpents/prisms/falcons have to decide to either neuter their shooting or take more hits does this make the +15 point upgrade worth it anymore? While it still helps when in cover its no longer the almost auto 4+ save it used to be. So, still worth it? or made less auto-take?


Well there are other way to acquire cover besides jinking, meaning you can improve your cover save AND shoot.

   
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IMO, holo+ghostalk will be much more common
   
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At this point I'd say if you're running them as gunboats more than transports then no, but if you can spare the points then it'll make them 17% more survivable.

   
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Bharring wrote:
IMO, holo+ghostalk will be much more common


I have always been a fan of this, not testing is nice.

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Yes, Holofields are worth it.

Remember that dedicated transports count as being whatever element their unit is -- thus, Wave Serpents brought as Dedicated Transports for Troops are counted as Troops. That means that they have Objective Secured, and thus can't be contested as easily.

You will move a Wave Serpent next to an Objective, and you will jink for a 3+ cover save. They must blow up the serpent if they're going to stop you from taking the objective.
   
 
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