Auto include in a Grey Knight Armies?

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**twinner**

Is this now a auto include in all GK armies. Or something like this.

1x Coteaz
6x 3 Psykers, with a razorbak?

26 dice for 550 pts.

Of course you can add more psykers and get rid of the razorbacks, but if you want to be shooting those temples, you need move ability.

This also allows a lot of points in most game for other non physic devoted units. I mean you could just cheese out and go coteaz and 6x unit of 13 psykers generating 80 + D6 dice for 880 points. But that would not be fun to play, or play against.

**LinkXx**

6x13(I don't know how you got 13) would still only be 6 warp charges. The unit size doesn't matter. That only applies to Pink Horrors at 1-10 = WC1, 11-15 = WC2 and 16-20 = WC3. But yeah 2 Acolytes and a Psyker in a Razorback x 6 is a cheap way of getting 12 Objective Secured troops and 12 WCs.

**Agtthot**

Yeah brotherhood of psykers counts as one psyker. 1 psyker, 2 acolytes, razorback with psybolt - 68 pts per 2 dice in the psychic phase and a pretty legit scoring unit to boot.

**Tyrius**

auto include I dunno but Greyknights so basically any imperial army you get:

Coteaz
100 points
6 squads Psyker and 2 acolytes
108 points
208 points to generate 8 wc

Can put them in psybacks and get 6 more WC.

**twinner**

Hey guys, I though since they got rid of the book power, they were no longer considered a brotherhood. After further reading I see they are not. So now I think it is good to have this:

1x Coteaz
6x Pskyer and 2x Warrior in Psyback
Totaling 508 points.

**calcifer**

And a Vindacare Assassin, cause f*** tanks and invulnerable saves

**Elric Greywolf**

Don't forget the Culexus, who will get quite the handful of dice next to all those Psykers (+13 shots if he's in range of the whole Detachment).

**Mathieu Raymond**

And I thought I was being cheesy.

Wow... this is uber. And scary.

How do I get 4 more Razorbacks?

**Tyrius**

twinner wrote:
Hey guys, I though since they got rid of the book power, they were no longer considered a brotherhood. After further reading I see they are not. So now I think it is good to have this:

1x Coteaz
6x Pskyer and 2x Warrior in Psyback
Totaling 508 points.

478 if you did what I said.

**Elric Greywolf**

Tyrius wrote:
twinner wrote:
Hey guys, I though since they got rid of the book power, they were no longer considered a brotherhood. After further reading I see they are not. So now I think it is good to have this:

1x Coteaz
6x Pskyer and 2x Warrior in Psyback
Totaling 508 points.

478 if you did what I said.

Coteaz - 100
Psyker + 2 Warriors - 18
Psyback - 50

6x Psyker mini-units in Psybacks - 408
+ Coteaz
= 508

Where are you getting 478?

Edit: Oh I see. If you leave off the 30pts of Psybolts from the Razorbacks.
But you called them Psybacks! Which of course means they have Psybolts. Psybacks without Psybolts are Razorbacks, or Razors, or RBacks, or anything that does not have "Psy" in the name.
And really, there's no reason at all to not take Psybolts. Str6 shooting over Str5 is definitely worth 5pts, no question.