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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/31 17:29:12
Subject: Reasoning for Gorkanauts price
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Agile Revenant Titan
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-compared to the stompa that is.
Gorkanaut=105$
Stompa=115$
For 10 dollars more you get a much taller model, a much wider model, a model with many more pieces, and looks cooler (Although that is a personal opinion).
Is there any reasoning for this price?
Or is it just another example of GWs incompetence?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/31 17:30:53
Subject: Re:Reasoning for Gorkanauts price
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Perfect Shot Black Templar Predator Pilot
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This basically spells a pricr increase for the stompa...woo!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/31 17:36:43
Subject: Reasoning for Gorkanauts price
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Lord of the Fleet
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This is your answer.
Really just checking to see how much people are willing to pay for their stuff. The Munitorum edition of the rules is another great example of this. Or all of their limited edition books in 6th.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/31 17:42:33
Subject: Reasoning for Gorkanauts price
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Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel
Norway (Oslo)
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Meh i'm more than happy enough with my Meka dredds
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Waagh like a bawz
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Kaptin Goldteef's waagh! 16250 points 45/18/3 (W/L/D) 7th Ed
6250 points 9/3/1 (W/L/D) sixth-ed
Dark elves: 2350points 3/0/0 (W/L/D)
3400 points 19/6/0 (W/L/D) 8' armybook
Wood Elves 2600 points, 6/4/0 (W/L/D)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/31 17:43:14
Subject: Re:Reasoning for Gorkanauts price
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Abel
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You are asking the internet for advice as to why a model from GW is priced the way it is? Boy, you haven't been playing 40K or been around GW for very long, have you?
There is no answer for this. It's a new kit, probably cost GW about $20 to sculpt, mold, produce, advertise, and distribute it. They count on "Oh! New shiney model!" and OP rules to sell new models. There is no rhyme or reason to the GW pricing strategy, except to realize that in six months, their prices will go up. And up, and up, and up. I can't wait until it's US$100 for 10 Space Marines.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/31 17:43:52
Subject: Reasoning for Gorkanauts price
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Morphing Obliterator
Elsewhere
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Business as usual, actually.
I don´t understand how people still manage to get shocked by this, they have been doing it for years.
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from The Dark King, by Graham McNeill.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/31 20:38:00
Subject: Re:Reasoning for Gorkanauts price
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Hmm...see I for do not mind the price. For over a year GW has been releasing newer kits at higher prices when compared older kits. This is a much better alternative to blanket price increases over their entire range like they used to do.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/31 20:52:47
Subject: Re:Reasoning for Gorkanauts price
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Stoic Grail Knight
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I think the main lesson to be garnered from this is that the Stompa is about to get a *big* price increase, probably up to the Baneblade cost range...
...you know, since they're both superheavies
(At least, I think this will be GW's reasoning on the bit)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/31 20:56:04
Subject: Re:Reasoning for Gorkanauts price
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Brigadier General
The new Sick Man of Europe
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Since the Baneblade has already gone up in price I expect the release will come with a more expensive reboxing of the Stompa.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/31 22:38:54
Subject: Re:Reasoning for Gorkanauts price
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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sing your life wrote:Since the Baneblade has already gone up in price I expect the release will come with a more expensive reboxing of the Stompa.
very likely so,
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/31 23:12:19
Subject: Reasoning for Gorkanauts price
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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ninjafiredragon wrote:-compared to the stompa that is.
Gorkanaut=105$
Stompa=115$
For 10 dollars more you get a much taller model, a much wider model, a model with many more pieces, and looks cooler (Although that is a personal opinion).
Is there any reasoning for this price?
Or is it just another example of GWs incompetence?
GW prices depend on the size and number of sprues included. Production costs don't take ingame rules or aesthetic appeal into account.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/01 00:02:06
Subject: Reasoning for Gorkanauts price
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Guarded Grey Knight Terminator
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Agent_Tremolo wrote:
GW prices depend on the size and number of sprues included. Production costs don't take ingame rules or aesthetic appeal into account.
Chaos Space Marines: 5 midsize sprues. 39 USD. Chaos Terminators: 2 midsize sprues. 50 USD. Space Marine Tactical Squad: 3 midsize sprues. 40 USD.
Tau Riptide: 2 large sprues. 85USD. Chaos Forgefiend: 2 large sprues. 68USD. Tau Sky Ray: 4 Large sprues, 1 midsize sprue. 60 USD.
I do not think size and count of sprues is particularly relevant.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/01 00:14:04
Subject: Reasoning for Gorkanauts price
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GreyHamster wrote: Agent_Tremolo wrote:
GW prices depend on the size and number of sprues included. Production costs don't take ingame rules or aesthetic appeal into account.
Chaos Space Marines: 5 midsize sprues. 39 USD. Chaos Terminators: 2 midsize sprues. 50 USD. Space Marine Tactical Squad: 3 midsize sprues. 40 USD.
Tau Riptide: 2 large sprues. 85USD. Chaos Forgefiend: 2 large sprues. 68USD. Tau Sky Ray: 4 Large sprues, 1 midsize sprue. 60 USD.
I do not think size and count of sprues is particularly relevant.
This. GW's prices are totally arbitrary.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/01 00:49:14
Subject: Re:Reasoning for Gorkanauts price
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I am sure there are a lot of concerns when pricing 40k models, ulitmately they price them so the price * the units sold is as high as possible (Obviously). With the unique units, like characters, they can price them extremely high, as there will be usually 1 (and only 1) per army. In this particular case, the stompa is an old model, I am sure it is near saturation, most people that will buy it already have it. WIth these nauts, they will sell a much higher number, as you can field more of them, and they are new and shiny, so it is easier to price them higher without tanking the number sold. The Stompa MAY see a price increase to take advantage of the new codex, but I don't see it happening.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/01 01:38:59
Subject: Reasoning for Gorkanauts price
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Hacking Proxy Mk.1
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Looking at GW's line over the years I get the impression that they change how they price kits every year but don't update the prices on anything unless repackaging it so we end up with stuff all over the place.
At one point 10 25mm bases would cost X, 5 40mm bases would cost Y and a large vehicle would cost Z.
Then it became troops cost X, elites cost X+Y, heavy support cost X+Z.
Then it became 'hey, Australian prices are X, next release we should try charging Americans X.
And of course lets not forget 'we're putting a rare and a core in the same box, better double the price even though people can only make one or the other.
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Fafnir wrote:Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/01 02:37:27
Subject: Reasoning for Gorkanauts price
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Lead-Footed Trukkboy Driver
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Honestly, the 'Orkanauts seem more complex. They have an inside hull, and outside hull, opening doors, pose-able arms, a seemingly large variety of extra bits, etc.
The Stompa is just a big empty torso with the fancier bits on the heads and arms. I would imagine this more "complex" model is part of their reasoning for charging nearly the same price. Oh, and also: "SHINY NEW MODEL MOST BUY."
Could also be that orks players are so desperate for ANYTHING new that GW just priced to generate maximum proffit. (I'm so desperate for new orks, I'd almost be willing to take Termis with nob heads as the "new Mega-nobs".)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/01 06:33:02
Subject: Reasoning for Gorkanauts price
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Regular Dakkanaut
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The Stompa should have had a price increase comparable to the Baneblade, but unlike the Baneblade, the Stompa never sold. It has been kept low in order to move units. I imagine if Orks take off with the new codex and the addition of these mini-super heavies, the price might go up to Baneblade levels if they're popular. But I wouldn't count on it. I don't imagine the Stompa will ever sell well enough that.
The price on the mini-super heavies is where it is to discourage secondary market sales. GW has a problem with bandwagon players who buy the new hotness only to dump the army on ebay and the trading sites 3-6 months later. While this is great upfront, it kills the longevity of sales, so they set the prices ridiculously high on these select units, sell fewer for more profit and once they do hit the secondary market the sellers demand higher prices for them. Go to any trading forum and try to get a Wraithnight, Stormraven, Riptide, Imperial Knight, etc. and you'll get a response along the lines of "I'm actually saving that for something really special." That's how GW wants it. Fewer in secondary circulation means more stable sell through over the longrun.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/02 07:17:06
Subject: Reasoning for Gorkanauts price
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Kinebrach-Knobbling Xeno Interrogator
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Stompa is way cooler and you can add all sorts of stuff to it
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/02 08:25:01
Subject: Reasoning for Gorkanauts price
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Perfect Shot Dark Angels Predator Pilot
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110 bucks for a water ballon coated in superglue rolled trough a bitz box...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/02 08:35:16
Subject: Reasoning for Gorkanauts price
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Fixture of Dakka
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Agent_Tremolo wrote: ninjafiredragon wrote:-compared to the stompa that is.
Gorkanaut=105$
Stompa=115$
For 10 dollars more you get a much taller model, a much wider model, a model with many more pieces, and looks cooler (Although that is a personal opinion).
Is there any reasoning for this price?
Or is it just another example of GWs incompetence?
GW prices depend on the size and number of sprues included. Production costs don't take ingame rules or aesthetic appeal into account.
You really believe that? Sigh that's why prices are so high.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/02 09:16:27
Subject: Re:Reasoning for Gorkanauts price
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Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf
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sing your life wrote:Since the Baneblade has already gone up in price I expect the release will come with a more expensive reboxing of the Stompa.
Wasn't the baneblade increase in price because they rolled the two baneblade kits in to one? Or was there another price rise that I missed? lol
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/02 10:01:49
Subject: Reasoning for Gorkanauts price
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The gorka-morkatron is basically a russbot really. as i can buy 2 leman russes for less than the cost of one gorkatron, I'll be using some russbots as my trons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/02 10:04:51
Subject: Re:Reasoning for Gorkanauts price
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Brigadier General
The new Sick Man of Europe
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AllSeeingSkink wrote: sing your life wrote:Since the Baneblade has already gone up in price I expect the release will come with a more expensive reboxing of the Stompa.
Wasn't the baneblade increase in price because they rolled the two baneblade kits in to one? Or was there another price rise that I missed? lol
They put in some more optional bits to the try ["try" is key word here] to justify the increased price, like a lot of GW's kits today.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/02 10:19:28
Subject: Re:Reasoning for Gorkanauts price
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Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf
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sing your life wrote:AllSeeingSkink wrote: sing your life wrote:Since the Baneblade has already gone up in price I expect the release will come with a more expensive reboxing of the Stompa.
Wasn't the baneblade increase in price because they rolled the two baneblade kits in to one? Or was there another price rise that I missed? lol They put in some more optional bits to the try ["try" is key word here] to justify the increased price, like a lot of GW's kits today.
Well they basically increased it from, what, 5 sprues to 7 sprues? Not saying it's an awesomely good deal or anything (I'd rather pay less and get only the 5 sprues since it's a pain in the arse to magnetise), but at least they gave you something for the price increase. If they just bump up the Stompa price it will be worse unless they decide to give the Stompa some options and include extra sprues.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/02 10:21:55
Subject: Re:Reasoning for Gorkanauts price
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Brigadier General
The new Sick Man of Europe
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AllSeeingSkink wrote: sing your life wrote:AllSeeingSkink wrote: sing your life wrote:Since the Baneblade has already gone up in price I expect the release will come with a more expensive reboxing of the Stompa.
Wasn't the baneblade increase in price because they rolled the two baneblade kits in to one? Or was there another price rise that I missed? lol
They put in some more optional bits to the try ["try" is key word here] to justify the increased price, like a lot of GW's kits today.
Well they basically increased it from, what, 5 sprues to 7 sprues? Not saying it's an awesomely good deal or anything (I'd rather pay less and get only the 5 sprues since it's a pain in the arse to magnetise), but at least they gave you something for the price increase.
I said that GW put in optional parts, so even if you get more sprues you'll still be using the same amount of parts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/02 10:27:45
Subject: Reasoning for Gorkanauts price
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Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf
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Yeah, but at least they did SOMETHING, what are they gonna do to the Stompa when they raise the price? They haven't really been eager to do random price rises like that. They either add in more options or rebox them with a different number of models to make the pricing worse.
They can't do either of those things with a Stompa so I doubt we'll see a price rise (unless the new Ork codex includes the rules for the Stompa, which also includes more options and they release a new kit with those extra options, which doesn't look like what they're doing).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/02 10:45:27
Subject: Reasoning for Gorkanauts price
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AllSeeingSkink wrote:Yeah, but at least they did SOMETHING, what are they gonna do to the Stompa when they raise the price? They haven't really been eager to do random price rises like that. They either add in more options or rebox them with a different number of models to make the pricing worse.
They can't do either of those things with a Stompa so I doubt we'll see a price rise (unless the new Ork codex includes the rules for the Stompa, which also includes more options and they release a new kit with those extra options, which doesn't look like what they're doing).
That, or they release rules for a new stompa that has a new head and arm, and add those on a sprue to a kit, as well as a jacked up price to cover it. Which makes total sense in GW speak, not so much in ours.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/02 11:41:08
Subject: Reasoning for Gorkanauts price
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Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf
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I don't think the Stompa was popular enough for them to go remaking existing sprues, but maybe.
For some reason I'm not a big fan of the 40k Stompa but it makes me want to play Epic 40k again, lol.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/02 11:56:03
Subject: Reasoning for Gorkanauts price
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South West UK
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AllSeeingSkink wrote:For some reason I'm not a big fan of the 40k Stompa but it makes me want to play Epic 40k again, lol.
We all want to play Epic 40K again. :(
It was possibly the best game as an actual wargame I've played from GW. (But note, I only ever played Fantasy once with a borrowed army, so I don't know about that - that seemed good to, but it was about fifteen years ago).
Epic 40K was amazing. Less good for miniature painters, but there was still some good work I saw.
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