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So Prophet of the Voices gains you the Daemon special rule, as far as I can see there is no restriction on a Chaos Sorcerer being of Crimson Slaughter an taking this item. Here's the problem what happens to the character when

1. He takes a bike as a option and rolls Beast
2. He get's the the 3+ invulnerable then casts Cursed Earth, does it become 2+?
3. He Teleports near a Icon of Chaos with a Terminator suit.

If he can take a spell familiar does he become the best summoner in the game? Also how exactly does Spell Familiar work, does it reroll all dice or just the ones that are failures? I think it's all dice.

I'm not overtly familiar but could you have a Chaos Sorcerer w/ Prophet of the Voices, Spell Familiar, and Terminator Armour?

Bringing this up becaus I was just under the assumption they could do all of that and I am writing up something.

Can a Chaos Sorceror with a spell familiar on a bike join Possessed with Excess Banner and cast Sanctuary then casts cursed Earth to give them a 3+ save w/ a 5+ Invulnerable reroll then cast Hammerhand to give them ST7?

Can a Chaos Sorceror then cast Gate of Infinity and teleport them? What if they land near a Icon? Do they scatter?

Could he join a Squad of Obliterators , cast Gate of Infinity, teleport near a Icon and not scatter?

Very curious. All of those spells are Warp Charge 1, and he can reroll failures so he'd succeed 75% of the time, and never peril.

Broken fluff maybe. It would also be hard to get Sanctuary AND Cursed earth. on a single Character. And Prophet of the Voices would prevent you from rolling on Sanctic, being a Daemon and all so he would only benefit on Malefic.

Maybe with a 2 psykers, one going all sanctic, one going all malefic. Actually could be fun to see that, but the Sanctic would always be periling on all doubles with no way around it. The Familiar would only let you re-roll failures, you could still roll doubles on successes.


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1.) he uses beast rules. SO basically he's the same but auto pass Dangerous Terrain and fleets.
2.) Sure, 2+ save cheese. It says it is cumulative.
3.) I guess he can teleport off an Icon. But then he wont be able to join anybody and a Lonely Terminator is a dead one.

I think don't that being a daemon in Codex: CSMs prevents you from taking the Sanctic discipline nor benefits you when casting Malific. This would be the case only of your Pykers came from Codex: Chaos Daemons. So you can take both disciplines on your daemon-type sorcerer, and perils on all doubles rolled.

It doesen't say Codex: Chaos Daemons may not roll. It says

Psykers with the Daemon special rule can manifest Malefic powers as they would any other psychic power, but they cannot generate Sanctic powers at all.

In Fact, it does mention that

"Psykers from Codex: Grey Knights can manifest Sanctic powers as they would any other psychic power, but they cannot generate malefic powers at all."

So one is Codex restricted and one is rule restricted. Prophets GRANTS you the daemon rule. Which is what excludes you from taking sanctic. Its all right there.

The prophet sorceror is a great option, but he can only hide in possessed, and wow are they bad. So very many points for things as tough as marines.

Finding it hard to make a build where he's any use at all.

Captyn_Bob wrote:
The prophet sorceror is a great option, but he can only hide in possessed, and wow are they bad. So very many points for things as tough as marines.

Finding it hard to make a build where he's any use at all.

It's actually not that expensive to have a unit of ten and with a Sorcerer just taking Sanctuary and not anything else , they can have a 3+, 4++ , 5+ Feel No Pain. Also they can have +2 to their STR and gain the ability to teleport.


My question though is if you have a Gate of Infinity non Daemon Psyker teleport with a unit of Obliterators or Possessed and they land near a Icon do they scatter?

As its counted as a deep strike I believe your fine to do that

Hollismason wrote:

Captyn_Bob wrote:
The prophet sorceror is a great option, but he can only hide in possessed, and wow are they bad. So very many points for things as tough as marines.

Finding it hard to make a build where he's any use at all.

It's actually not that expensive to have a unit of ten and with a Sorcerer just taking Sanctuary and not anything else , they can have a 3+, 4++ , 5+ Feel No Pain. Also they can have +2 to their STR and gain the ability to teleport.


My question though is if you have a Gate of Infinity non Daemon Psyker teleport with a unit of Obliterators or Possessed and they land near a Icon do they scatter?

Note: As they won't be a daemon of the same type as the icon bearer, they'll scatter d6" instead of not scatter at all

Interesting so even if he isn't a Daemon but with a unit of Daemons if you teleport them they still don't scatter?

So he can just be a Level3 without being a Daemon and do the teleport?

Hollismason wrote:
Interesting so even if he isn't a Daemon but with a unit of Daemons if you teleport them they still don't scatter?

So he can just be a Level3 without being a Daemon and do the teleport?

Nope, the icon requires them to all be Daemons of "X" to not scatter, or all Daemons to reduce scatter.