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As title states, I'm totally new to the SM concept other than my GK army. I went and bought about 500 dollars worth of the models, basically buying out my store on DA stuff, and I had a general idea of what I wanted to do, but now listening to some podcasts, batreps, and even things on the internet I'm trying to see if I was totally wrong on the build idea I had. I want to post a list but now I don't know at all. So my question is kinda a rounded one - what units, to other DA 7TH EDITION (very important it's the new edition) players like? Are there any auto takes as the builds im so used to with GK and Tau (I play them as well).

Things I feel due to reading the codex and some of the FAQs and 7th ED rules:

*I need a Landraider
*I need a Deathwing Knights squad w/ my HQ
*I don't want to use Command squads bc there are better options (what I keep hearing, even when they are free from FoC)
*I need to take a Nephylim

This is a general idea. What I have bought so far is the battleforce (Ravenwing box i think it's called), Command/Knights/Termies box, 2 SM Tact squad box's, 1 scouts box, 1 sternguard vets box, DA vets box, new codex

That's what I have so far, and thinking Ravenwing was going to be a big part of my list, but with that jink newness, figured it wouldnt be great to stack everything in it. Plus my fav way to play would be sword/board (hammers...i know XD) and lots and lots of robes. Im big into CC

Any help yall can give would be awesome! Im wanting to play for fun, but at same time be competitive, so by all means mold me!

Ravenwing are great for the maelstrom of war missions, they can grab you a lt of fast victory points if taken as troops, deathwing can be great in dropping into nasty situations to grab difficult points. Land raiders are handy, I like having them in a list. I run my termies "sword and board" as well they can be a real pain for the enemy to deal with, throw on a cyclone missile launcher and deep,strike behind vehicles.

I have enough points of raven and death wings to run either as a stand alone army but running a mixed list is so much better. Though my only perfect game(no glances or pens or unsaved wounds) was at a local tournament with my deathwing.


If you plan to run a lot of bolters either stationary or on bikes or in land raiders get a command squad(there are 3 to choose from though the termie one is least helpful) and bring a banner of devastation. The banner isn't cheap but it lets a squad of 6 moving bikes(thanks relentless) move and fire 24 twin linked bolter shots.

May also consider a dark shroud if you go bikes or skimmers stealth on bikes makes jink awesome, 3+ save on skimmers and normal bikes and a 2+ on the ravenwing command squad with skilled rider adding another +1 on top of stealth.

I would say just play what you like though, for friendly games it all works great.